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Muir-Hanna Vineyards Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 4-Pack
$69.99 $̶2̶1̶5̶.̶0̶0̶ 67% off List Price
2003 Muir-Hanna Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley, Particelli Vineyards
2004 Muir-Hanna Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley, Particelli Vineyards
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bahwm


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We recently had a bottle of the 2003 Muir-Hanna Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Particelli Vineyard at one of our local restaurants with a friend who is comparatively less-experienced in reviewing wines than we are. I’m not saying that we are better, just that she is less-experienced!

We had to coach our poor server as she opened the bottle since the cork broke. She almost freaked out. Fortunately, I had the exact same thing happen the night before on a bottle of the same vintage of Rioja, except that my cork disintegrated! Once she got the cork out, I was able to smell the wine clear across the table as she poured it into ddeuddeg’s glass. It was a beautiful fruity aroma. Once I got my pour, I was able to identify ripe cherries and dark berries. It was a beautiful claret color with no bricking yet. This wine was explosive on the palate. The flavors matched the nose. This is a very smooth, well-balanced, nicely aged wine with a long finish.

Our friend said, “Fantastic smell when opened. Slow to develop taste. Warm, rich wonderful taste in the back of my mouth. Fantastic with lamb dish. Wonderful throughout the meal.”

This is a well-made wine. I would like to have more of it in our cellar. It is drinking beautifully now. At this price point, we'll be in and so will our friend. I look forward to doing a mini-vertical.

May our love be like good wine, grow stronger as it grows older. ~ Old English Toast

ddeuddeg


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Two nights ago, at one of our favorite local restaurants, SWMBO and I, along with a dinner guest, had a chance to sample a bottle of the '03 Muir-Hanna Cabernet Sauvignon, Particelli Vineyard. It was a nice opportunity to see how it would work with different meals, since at home we'd typically be eating the same thing.
I asked the server to open it right away, and tried a taste to see if it needed decanting, deciding that wouldn't be necessary. This was one of those rare wines I would have approved just from the initial sniff: loaded with dark fruits, black currants and bing cherries.
On the palate, dusty tannins, like from Rutherford, more dark fruit. So far, I'm loving it on its own. After 15 minutes in the glass, the tannins have softened nicely, vindicating our decision not to decant, but just giving it a bit of air.
Dinner was beef stew "braised with root vegetables and bourbon in a rich beef demi-glaze, crowned with puff pastry triangles." (menu description) I'll let SWMBO comment on her pairing, but this one was near perfect. The only problem I had with the wine was that I wanted another bottle; it was a superb match for the stew, complementing the rich flavors without competing. All that fruit came to the forefront, although a bit subdued with age, and created the illusion of sweetness, although I'm quite sure it was bone dry.
I could see the '03 going for $25-30 a bottle. At this price point, I'll have to find a way to get my hands on some more. The 6 hour drive to Hartford will be a small price to pay for a wine this enjoyable. Pending approval from PB, I'm definitely in. I'll sleep on it and decide for how many.

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bahwm


quality posts: 30 Private Messages bahwm
ddeuddeg wrote:Two nights ago, at one of our favorite local restaurants, SWMBO and I, along with a dinner guest, had a chance to sample a bottle of the '03 Muir-Hanna Cabernet Sauvignon, Particelli Vineyard. It was a nice opportunity to see how it would work with different meals, since at home we'd typically be eating the same thing.
I asked the server to open it right away, and tried a taste to see if it needed decanting, deciding that wouldn't be necessary. This was one of those rare wines I would have approved just from the initial sniff: loaded with dark fruits, black currants and bing cherries.
On the palate, dusty tannins, like from Rutherford, more dark fruit. So far, I'm loving it on its own. After 15 minutes in the glass, the tannins have softened nicely, vindicating our decision not to decant, but just giving it a bit of air.
Dinner was beef stew "braised with root vegetables and bourbon in a rich beef demi-glaze, crowned with puff pastry triangles." (menu description) I'll let SWMBO comment on her pairing, but this one was near perfect. The only problem I had with the wine was that I wanted another bottle; it was a superb match for the stew, complementing the rich flavors without competing. All that fruit came to the forefront, although a bit subdued with age, and created the illusion of sweetness, although I'm quite sure it was bone dry.
I could see the '03 going for $25-30 a bottle. At this price point, I'll have to find a way to get my hands on some more. The 6 hour drive to Hartford will be a small price to pay for a wine this enjoyable. Pending approval from PB, I'm definitely in. I'll sleep on it and decide for how many.


Oops! I forgot to mention our food pairing! Our guest and I both decided to have the other special at the restaurant: Basil-Pinenut Crusted Lamb which was a Rack of Lamb Roasted with a Basil-Pinenut Crust, served on a bed of Roasted Pepper and Spinach Risotto, naped with a Tomato Demi-Glaze (restaurant description). It was prepared beautifully! The wine was the perfect complement to this meal! The only problem: we ran out of wine!

May our love be like good wine, grow stronger as it grows older. ~ Old English Toast

MarkDaSpark


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New list in the Gatherings tab and Old list in the Community tab. Great reading and great examples of how to set up a Get-Together Thread.
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Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me!
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bobermeier


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Shipping only to 16 states and sadly not Missouri. Was ready to pull the trigger :-(

cortot20


quality posts: 153 Private Messages cortot20

These look promising as I needed some cabs in this age range and especially at this price point. Judging by the alc. and descriptors used in the notes we've seen so far this seems to be firmly in the new world camp. Do we think this will last another 10 years or is it peaking now?

CT

klezman


quality posts: 127 Private Messages klezman

Buffalo crew...was this a coincidence or did you get a bottle from a friend? Just curious!

Ron, I heard you've also got something to share with us...

My question is also on the style. The alcohol and acid numbers lead me to guess it's more new world-ish. Would rpm approve of this bottle?

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MarkDaSpark


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A bottle of the 2004 Cab appeared at my Wine Locker recently. Upon opening, poured a glass, and filled a 375ml bottle (just below cork pushed all the way down) for tomorrow. Will report on it tomorrow evening.

Initial sniff: loaded with dark fruits, black currants and dusty (not quite Rutherford, but close) on the nose.

Very nice on the palate, at cellar temp, little tannins. But after being open a while, some soft tannins appear.

And obviously, I give this two thumbs up!


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MarkDaSpark


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bobermeier wrote:Shipping only to 16 states and sadly not Missouri. Was ready to pull the trigger :-(



Find a wootlegger close to you. Or someplace you don't mind visiting!

There's even a thread for it!


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azn137


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Aaaaaaaaaaand no shipping to New York, again

rjquillin


quality posts: 179 Private Messages rjquillin

Earlier this week while Picking up an expected shipment from FedEx the kind lady I ply with bottles offered up an unexpected box containing a single bottle. Never known to turn down a gift, it too went home.

A 10-year old Napa Valley vineyard designate Cab!
2003 Muir~Hanna Napa Cabernet Sauvignon - Particelli Vineyard
With uncertainty of when I may again see this and be called upon for notes, I candled the bottle looking for any signs of sediment, and seeing absolutely none immediately pulled the cork.
The wine was a very clear medium garnet lacking any signs of bricking, and leaving surprisingly little pigment on the cork, as if it had only recently been bottled, or perhaps stored such that the cork wasn't wetted, but it gave no indication of dryness to and was quite playable and was easily extracted.



Initial PnP impression was quite neutral, very restrained nose of fruits carrying through on the palate, a bit of alcohol, medium finish. Nothing unbalanced or out of place, but nothing outstanding either. Based on a recent experiment with PS and storage, half was decanted into a very full 375 and re-corked (Zork) and stored in a regular fridge, the remaining left in the 750, no Ar. or special treatment, and stored horizontally in the cooler at 55F; both for two days. Upon opening this evening equal amounts were poured into glasses and left to breath.

Initial impressions found the 375 to have a bit more fruit on the nose and palate; both were still restrained with dark fruits and still a bit of alcohol still needing to blow off. Entry for both was slightly sharp, same dark berry fruits with lightly drying tannins picking up for the finish.

+ two hours, now at near cool room temperature.
The 375 has remained largely unchanged. Both seem to have picked up a bit of spice, clove?, but it seems more pronounced in the 750, which overall has knitted together substantially more than the 375 which now seems to have a bit of fig. Both remain quite restrained for a 10-year old cab. While I'd not expect much bottle bouquet, lacking in both are any tobacco, leather or earth I might expect to begin appearing.

Day three: The 750, without Ar, didn't hold up all that well, so it's now the 375 that is showing very little change from the previous pour. Now picking up some red cherry as well as the dark berry from earlier, but still none of the aged bouquet I might expect. No green or vegetal hints either.

Overall a well balanced bottle that seems like this could go for some time in a good cellar.
While I'd question $50 SRP, at $17.50 and with IH on plus, this looks to be an expensive day.

CT

bahwm


quality posts: 30 Private Messages bahwm
cortot20 wrote:These look promising as I needed some cabs in this age range and especially at this price point. Judging by the alc. and descriptors used in the notes we've seen so far this seems to be firmly in the new world camp. Do we think this will last another 10 years or is it peaking now?


The '03 did not seem to be high in alcohol content at all. To me, it seems to be at its peak, but I will leave the winemaker to give the aging potential.

May our love be like good wine, grow stronger as it grows older. ~ Old English Toast

dannyschroeder


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dannyschroeder

Aaaaaaaaaaand no shipping to Wisconsin, again, again, again, again, again???????????

rpm


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I don't know the wine, and I can't imagine why a 10 year old cab didn't land in the hands of the guy who's been preaching on these boards since 2007 that Cabernet Sauvignon should as a matter of course not be drunk before the age of 10 (other than to check development).

That said, this is almost certainly worth trying, if only to see what Cabernet that has lasted past the initial fruit/tannin stage tastes like.

Given that 2003 was a decent, but not particularly strong year, I would expect the 2003 wine to be mature, probably in the neighborhood of peak, and certainly worth ~$20 a bottle for the look-see. Similarly, 2004 was about the same, but early maturing, so that wine should be ready to drink as well.

Drink the 2003 now, it being just into the 10 years from vintage window this Fall, and try the 2004 during the February Winter doldrums.

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Pull lots of corks!
Remember what you taste!

fredrinaldi


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Weird weekend, I live In a beach community near L.A., Thursday night the wife freaked out as a raccoon was walking along our wall, not something you see by the beach every day, Friday I hear a commotion out front and look out the window and a dam monkey was shrieking and carrying on, Really? in Manhattan Beach? opened the door and low and behold was a bottle of this wine!!!
Grabbed the bottle, thanked the monkey and went back in the house a little rattled, but thankful all the same, After all I'm always looking for a nice bottle of Cab.
Last night remembering the bottle decided to check it out.
Popped the cork and immediately could smell the wine, to me this is a good sign.. poured about half a glass and liked what I saw, ( If I can see through a wine as I pour it that's not a good sign) A deep dark red color with nice legs. 1st sip was promising, flavors exploded in my mouth, berries, and dry to the point of shall I say... cotton mouth?
As the evening went by I fell in love with this wine. Reminded me a little of RBW and Rockus, to me some of my woot favorites.
Unlike others this wine didn't make it to day two, gone in one night.
Defiantly in for more at this price, this is an excellent wine for the price (would expect to pay $30 for a bottle like this), just have to figure out how much and where to put it as my racks are full.

Edit: in for 2
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jmdavidson


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fredrinaldi wrote:Opened the door and low and behold was a bottle of this wine!!!
After all I'm always looking for a nice bottle of Cab.
Last night remembering the bottle decided to check it out.
Popped the cork and immediately could smell the wine, to me this is a good sign.. poured about half a glass and liked what I saw, ( If I can see through a wine as I pour it that's not a good sign) A deep dark red color with nice legs. 1st sip was promising, flavors exploded in my mouth, berries, and dry to the point of shall I say... cotton mouth?
As the evening went by I fell in love with this wine. Reminded me a little of RBW and Rockus, to me some of my woot favorites.
Unlike others this wine didn't make it to day two, gone in one night.
Defiantly in for more at this price, this is an excellent wine for the price (would expect to pay $30 for a bottle like this), just have to figure out how much and where to put it as my racks are full.

Edit: in for 2
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Which vintage?

fredrinaldi


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jmdavidson wrote:Which vintage?



Ya know I didn't notice, believe 03, will verify when I get home tonight.

rjquillin


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Any west coasters want to split?
I'm in for one set, but would like to add an extra bottle of each.

CT

rjquillin


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jmdavidson wrote:Which vintage?


Do we have no reports on the '04?
Neil, take one for the team, do your job and go pull a cork.

Steak and eggs?

CT

North316


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rjquillin wrote:Do we have no reports on the '04?
Neil, take one for the team, do your job and go pull a cork.

Steak and eggs?



Sparky's very weak notes were on the '04.

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rjquillin


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North316 wrote:Sparky's very weak notes were on the '04.

Duh, moar caffeine.

CT

noslensj


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fredrinaldi wrote:
Defiantly in for more at this price, this is an excellent wine for the price (would expect to pay $30 for a bottle like this), just have to figure out how much and where to put it as my racks are full.


"Defiantly" in for more, Fred? Hmmmm ... is there a miffed SWMBO in your household??

rwinerr


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NO NY again...hmmm
Maybe I'll just give up - why look
now I know how they feel in those other states - what's with Cuomo ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

InFrom


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noslensj wrote:"Defiantly" in for more, Fred? Hmmmm ... is there a miffed SWMBO in your household??

For a worthy Cab he'll stand his ground, against raccoons, monkeys, or SWMBO! (Cue the fredrinaldi theme music...)

MarkDaSpark


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North316 wrote:Sparky's very weak notes were on the '04.



Very weak? I said there would be more tonight!


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rjquillin


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MarkDaSpark wrote:Very weak? I said there would be more tonight!


yeah, Where's Trollface Hiding? were you doing all weekend slacker?

CT

merbill


quality posts: 29 Private Messages merbill
rjquillin wrote:Any west coasters want to split?
I'm in for one set, but would like to add an extra bottle of each.



I'd be good with that.

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North316


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MarkDaSpark wrote:Very weak? I said there would be more tonight!



"tonight" is bedtime on the east coast. Half of the market doesn't check back to here to read posts past your dinner time...not that we can buy anyway.

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bsevern


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rjquillin wrote:Do we have no reports on the '04?
Neil, take one for the team, do your job and go pull a cork.

Steak and eggs?



Over the past year I've been drinking through some 2003 & 2004 Napa Cabs, and I'm finding the 2004's are much better at this stage of the game.

That said, I haven't tried any of these. Odd that there's no CT notes on any of these wines? You'd think after ten years, someone would've wrote something!

ThunderThighs


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MarkDaSpark wrote:Very weak? I said there would be more tonight!

Huh, the night mod didn't give you a quality post for that. I took care of it.

//snickers and exits the room



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winedrew


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Good afternoon all!

Muir-Hanna is mainly a grower supplying grapes to few wineries in Napa. Bill has been in Napa for over 40 years and does an amazing job. He happens to be a direct descendant of John Muir himself!

I know he sells to Chateau Montelena and Heitz.

Cheers,
Winedrew

MarkDaSpark


quality posts: 186 Private Messages MarkDaSpark
ThunderThighs wrote:Huh, the night mod didn't give you a quality post for that. I took care of it.

//snickers and exits the room



Yes, they've been slackers since you went to days.


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rjquillin


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ThunderThighs wrote:Huh, the night mod didn't give you a quality post for that. I took care of it.

//snickers and exits the room

It's not a -1!?

CT

ThunderThighs


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MarkDaSpark wrote:Yes, they've been slackers since you went to days.


I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING!!!!



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rjquillin wrote:It's not a -1!?

I could go find an old quality post and remove it. That would take away one from his count.

(When people complain that they don't have a quality post, I'll go to a very, very, very old post and give it a quality post just to drive them nuts trying to find it. LOL)



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rjquillin


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merbill wrote:I'd be good with that.

done, and done; I think. It shows in stuff ordered, but still no email confirmation.
TT?

CT

rjquillin


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winedrew wrote:Good afternoon all!

Muir-Hanna is mainly a grower supplying grapes to few wineries in Napa. Bill has been in Napa for over 40 years and does an amazing job. He happens to be a direct descendant of John Muir himself!

I know he sells to Chateau Montelena and Heitz.

Cheers,
Winedrew

WD, can we expect a winery visit today to answer a few questions?

CT

winedrew


quality posts: 6 Private Messages winedrew
rjquillin wrote:WD, can we expect a winery visit today to answer a few questions?



Bill is the middle of harvest so he probably won't be able to make it. What would you like to ask him?