ThunderThighs


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rjquillin wrote:Taking this to Poli"ticks"

We ever going to see those 'corrected' numbers for the '96?
And some TN's?

Still likely to end up with a bit of everything.



Checked with WD. He's having problems getting hold of them. He's upping his level to badgering.



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ThunderThighs wrote:Checked with WD. He's having problems getting hold of them. He's upping his level to badgering.



ok Here's what we DO know.

the current tasting notes are for the '97.

hard copy tasting notes DO exist for the '96, but we don't yet have them located.

We DO have a couple bottles conjured up that DO have a good chance of being tasted in next 2-3 days.

Please stay tuned and pardon the delay.

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Very tempted by the 6-pack, as I almost always buy mixed offerings, but 6 bottles might be just a bit too much for me right now. What are the odds on getting a pack of 1 of each sometime in the near future?

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fogtower wrote:I've had two shipments of mixed bottles. Every single one was bad and had to be poured out.



I had the same experience with mine. It was not good at all so to see the positive comments is somewhat shocking to me. I'm glad others have fared better, but I'm staying away!

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I really enjoyed the 1997 and it was a bargain in my opinion. I'd be curious to taste the newer vintages to see how their wines drink young. They aren't charging any premium for the 2007 either. It's been said that if you couldn't make good wine in 2007, then you shouldn't be in the business of making wine.

I posted about the 1997 if you're interested: http://www.http://thefermentedfruit.com/1997-ardente-winery-cabernet-sauvingon-grand-riserva/.com/

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ThunderThighs wrote:



Efforts to find the proper tasting notes have been symied. i think this may be a wine.woot first!

hopefully some newer tasting notes will be fourthcoming.

sorry about this.

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I am also stunned by the lack on intel on the '96. As Ardente's self proclaimed second biggest fan (hats off to Fred), I feel that this should pull me out of my current buying freeze. I just need something to push me over the top. I wonder about some of the mixed reviews on the '97. I had a couple of so-so experiences with the wine after not drinking it for a while and I was worried that it may be over the hill (vegetal with acid and little fruit), however I went back to my notes and realized this needed a two hour decant. Whole new ballgame, we had bottles on back to back nights and they were fantastic. Good structure, lots of fruit, smooth as silk. They're not going to get any better, but they've got five years of great drinking left IMO. I don't know why Ardente wasn't selling them sooner, but I do know they are an obscene value and worth every bit of the $55 they're asking on the website. Now will someone please tell me how much of this enthusiasm I should lavish on the '96?

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pulling the trigger tomorrow, 1 "96" and 1 "07"

rjquillin


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fredrinaldi wrote:pulling the trigger tomorrow, 1 "96" and 1 "07"

What, you got no Pedroncelli today? Why wait?

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chipgreen


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rjquillin wrote:What, you got no Pedroncelli today? Why wait?


What would he do with 6 Mother Clone Zins?

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I also just purchased one 1996 and one 2007 set.
From the previous Woot, the 1997 bottle I drank was great... pretty hearty and definitely needs to decant for over an hour. The 2002 was absolutely delicious almost immediately.

I think the 1996 might be a little bit of a gamble because I thought I remember reading that the 1997 should be close to the end of it's life... but heck, it could be worth the risk. 2007 is a safe bet on being good wine.

Looking forward to hearing what others think of it! Thanks for the offer Woot!

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chipgreen wrote:What would he do with 6 Mother Clone Zins?

Fred seems to be making an effort to expand his horizons, and I'm sure many of us would pony up a shipping address if he really wanted to dispose of them.

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For all of you sitting on the fence on this offer:

Stay there, but only for a little while longer.

Tonight a bottle shall be sacrificed to Quench the ravenous desires of the mob.

Tonight all shall be revealed.

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kylemittskus


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cmaldoon wrote:For all of you sitting on the fence on this offer:

Stay there, but only for a little while longer.

Tonight a bottle shall be sacrificed to Quench the ravenous desires of the mob.

Tonight all shall be revealed.



You got one? You?!



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rjquillin


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cmaldoon wrote:For all of you sitting on the fence on this offer:

Stay there, but only for a little while longer.

Tonight a bottle shall be sacrificed to Quench the ravenous desires of the mob.

Tonight all shall be revealed.

Well before 22:00 while I still have FS please.
PM

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pseudogourmet98


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rjquillin wrote:Well before 22:00 while I still have FS please.
PM



Ditto

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cmaldoon wrote:For all of you sitting on the fence on this offer:

Stay there, but only for a little while longer.

Tonight a bottle shall be sacrificed to Quench the ravenous desires of the mob.

Tonight all shall be revealed.



And your time zone is?? Waiting to pull any trigger based on a complete lack of information. Guess I'll have to wake up early. Thanks for sacrificing your Wednesday night to Woot tasting!

rjquillin


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rjquillin wrote:Well before 22:00PDT while I still have FS please.
PM

Anticipation
He's PDT as well, so about 30 minutes..

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The 2006 won Bronze according to this link:
http://winejudging.com/medal_winners_2011/456.htm

Some data on the 2007:
http://www.napavintners.com/wines/wine_search/winery.asp?id_company=175

2007 Cabernet Sauvignon
92% Cabernet Sauvignon, 6% Merlot, and 2% Cabernet Franc
Ardente Cabernet Sauvignon "Grande Riserva"
Red wine
Atlas Peak Appellation
13.5% Alcohol
pH: 3.58
TA: 0.58

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sphervey wrote:And your time zone is?? Waiting to pull any trigger based on a complete lack of information. Guess I'll have to wake up early. Thanks for sacrificing your Wednesday night to Woot tasting!



I believe he's a west coaster.

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sphervey


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cortot20 wrote:I believe he's a west coaster.



Thanks! I'll set the alarm - if good things are said I might miss out! (CST)

cmaldoon


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sphervey wrote:Thanks! I'll set the alarm - if good things are said I might miss out! (CST)



Sorry! A bit later than planned due to work going late. First notes will be up about 2000 PST

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kylemittskus wrote:You got one? You?!

Only one bottle? Hopefully more than that and which vintage(s)?

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andreaserben


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rjquillin wrote:Only one bottle? Hopefully more than that and which vintage(s)?



Hmmm - west coast folks clearly seem to have an advantage to find those bottles... bah

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fredrinaldi wrote:pulling the trigger tomorrow, 1 "96" and 1 "07"



Totally with you on this one Fred...Did exactly the same. Pulled the trigger already!

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What always baffles me is that some wineries do not seem to understand or do not seem to care about the obvious correlation between intensity of winery participation and more/faster sales.
(Exceptions exist - if a wine is an established "auto-buy" for many, then the community dynamic works without the winery stepping in again)

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Tick, tock, tick, tock, ...

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rjquillin wrote:Tick, tock, tick, tock, ...



Ha! Drink faster! Drink faster!!!!!!! I feel like a Vulture . . . Or an over zealous oenophille.

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2007 Ardente Cabernet Sauvignon Grande Reserva

Popped at 1955 PST

Color: Garnet (purplish red) with an expected lay deep center but a bit lighter on the edge than I expected. This wine is not as much of a black hole as some CA cabs are.

Nose: The first thing that I notice is that I can smell this wine while the glass is sitting on the table over a foot away. Not only do I smell it, but it is powerful enough for me to distinguish it from the smells of dinner warming in the oven. I have not had the joy of many wines with that much concentration on the nose.

The second thing I notice is that the nose is not just fruit fruit fruit and oak. There is a note, a fairly decent one in the area of smokiness/black olive earthiness. I like it!

Now, sticking my nose in the glass I get the more typical aromas of blackberry overlayed with a hint of mint and based with a slightly floral chocolate note.

Another swirl, another sniff... Definitely cedar this time and a touch of a very dark tar-y note.... interesting..... That's usually a Barolo thing.

Ok, I was looking for another fruit in the nose but ill stick with straight up blackberry but with LOTS of interesting non-fruit flavors layered on.

Palate: (you mean after half an hour I might FINALLY have a chance to taste this wine?)

First sip- my first sip was defined by a very constant mid level acidity that carried and cleansed my palate. I got a bit of cedar up front with it. But was dazzled by the persistency of the tang so promptly forgot further notes. That's ok, I'll try again!

Second sip- Ah! Now it strikes me how best to name this flavor- it is a deep but not sweet cranberry juice flavor. Think of very dark very ripe cranberries. The mouth feel is full without going over the top into an unctuous feeling

Third sip. Still the cranberries but now some blackberry or perhaps Kiwi(!). Also the tannin is coming through. Very dry and I'm betting it is ramping up to there being quite a mouthful as this wine gets more air.

The finish.... Mmmmmm. The finish.... As I swallow my tongue does not seem willing to let the wine go. The deep cranberry flavor sticks around solidly for 5 seconds before fading, as it fades, I notice the slightly sweet vanilla oak flavors layered under the fruit. This takes another 10+ seconds to fade away at which point I am left with just a tingling of tannin on my tongue to keep my mouth watering for the next sip.

Along with the cranberry flavors, I find the mint and cedar I found in the nose. The oak which I mentioned before can hardly be noticed until after swallowing at which point it brings a smoky note along with it. There is a green note helping keep interest at the top of the palate, somewhere between green bell and parsley.



I'm not done, but I'm going to go eat something before this wine hits me on an almost empty stomach.


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cmaldoon wrote:

Nose: ...



... suspense

rjquillin


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andreaserben wrote:... suspense

It's a baby, only 2007...

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cmaldoon wrote:For all of you sitting on the fence on this offer:

Stay there, but only for a little while longer.

Tonight a bottle shall be sacrificed to Quench the ravenous desires of the mob.

Tonight all shall be revealed.



Thought one was coming my way too, but I think I didn't see the message in time. Oh well. Twisted Oak 2006 Tempranillo instead.

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rjquillin


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cmaldoon wrote:The finish.... Mmmmmm. The finish.... As I swallow my tongue does not seem willing to let the wine go. The deep cranberry flavor sticks around solidly for 5 seconds before fading, as it fades, I notice the slightly sweet vanilla oak flavors layered under the fruit. This takes another 10+ seconds to fade away at which point I am left with just a tingling of tannin on my tongue to keep my mouth watering for the next sip.

...

Seems you found your calling; oenophilic porno.

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chipgreen


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rjquillin wrote:Seems you found your calling; oenophilic porno.


He must know how to caress the glass just so as he's drinking to bring out the wine's naughty bits.

cmaldoon


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2007 Ardente Cabernet Sauvignon Grande Reserva - Continued


Ah yes, almost forgot the RPM taught "my palate" section:

I primarily consume cabernet and new world Syrah.

I will drink and enjoy cabs with anywhere between green notes and very dark black fruits as long as the wine has a good acidity level.

The three things i look for most in a wine are balance, concentration, and complexity in that order

This wine is fairly well balanced (8/10), if anything I am getting a bit TOO much acidity (oh baby will this bottle age between the acid and tannin... This will last at least another 20 years). It is well but not extraordinarily concentrated (7.5/10), and likewise for complexity.

This cab will please those who enjoy a complex cab, those who can deal with or enjoy a healthy dose of drying tannin, those who like a California cab which is not dark, oaky, and over extracted but still is very certainly Napa ripe fruit. ( Nobody is going to mistake this for an old world wine)

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cmaldoon


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chipgreen wrote:He must know how to caress the glass just so as he's drinking to bring out the wine's naughty bits.



You made me blush!!

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rjquillin


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Crystal clear?
Any sediment?
Especially after traveling.

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cmaldoon


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rjquillin wrote:Crystal clear?
Any sediment?
Especially after traveling.



I have not seen any sediment (though I rarely care unless I am pouring mud)

The core is pretty damn black so I'm sure there is micro sediment. I am also sure that this wine will throw a fair amount as it ages

The edges are crystal clear though. This is a well made wine.

I see that you purchased already though.

I personally may have to pick up a case... The question is if I go for 8 of these (and 2 each of the others) or just 12 of these and sit on them with all my other 2007s

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Eating baby back ribs and I must say that this wine doesn't hold up to BBQ sauce as well as a hearty Syrah would.

I would stick to steak (which would be superb with this and which I had intended to purchase and fix... Until work ran late)

Edit: actually it's not half bad with this just as long as you are not washing down a mouthful of BBQ sauce... Nothing can compete with that.

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