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Jana Cathedral Special Library (2)

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Cesare


quality posts: 1694 Private Messages Cesare

Jana Cathedral by Scott Harvey Special Library 2-Pack
$99.99 $̶1̶6̶3̶.̶0̶0̶ 39% off List Price
Jana Cathedral 2005 Napa Valley Red Meritage Style Blend
CT link above

Winery website

Previous offer:
6/22/11

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kylemittskus


quality posts: 233 Private Messages kylemittskus

And you people complained about weekend offers. I bet you feel pretty stupid now, huh? Or at least wrong. Ok; maybe more wrong than stupid. But really wrong, right? Like, really wrong.

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loveladyelectric


quality posts: 23 Private Messages loveladyelectric

This is a lot of dough for a silver medalist.

Can anyone share their notes for this specific vintage? I've heard nothing but good.

CAGrl


quality posts: 13 Private Messages CAGrl

Shoot! I don't have the money for this so I of course went in for one. We had this at the D&D after party at Scott's house. I picked up a bottle (or 2 I can't remember) then. It's yummy juice. I unfortunately don't have notes though.

Edit: Now Scott, how about the '03?

2nd Edit: Oops. I bought the 2006. But I believe we tried the '05. Now I'm doubting myself.

bkarlan


quality posts: 46 Private Messages bkarlan

Ugh. I just got hammered with an exorbitant tax statement too. Maybe if I sleep on this deal it will be sold out by the time I wake up and my mind will be made up for me.

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bsevern


quality posts: 110 Private Messages bsevern
CAGrl wrote:Shoot! I don't have the money for this so I of course went in for one. We had this at the D&D after party at Scott's house. I picked up a bottle (or 2 I can't remember) then. It's yummy juice. I unfortunately don't have notes though.

Edit: Now Scott, how about the '03?



Yes how about that '03?

I've got a case of the '05...need '04 (did you make an '04?) and the '03 was terrific!

McMalbec


quality posts: 8 Private Messages McMalbec

Is this The same bottle that was offered on Invino late in 2011?

CAGrl


quality posts: 13 Private Messages CAGrl

So Scott says in the Vintner Voicemail that it's 100% Cabernet. However, the specs sheet says 92% Cabernet, 4% PV and 4% CF. So which is it? Thanks!

CAGrl


quality posts: 13 Private Messages CAGrl
bsevern wrote:Yes how about that '03?

I've got a case of the '05...need '04 (did you make an '04?) and the '03 was terrific!


'04 is available on the website so he did make one.

sdfreedive


quality posts: 28 Private Messages sdfreedive

In for one because I think if I sleep on this I'm going to miss on it.

Which means I'm going to sleep on it and if it's still there in the morning I'll get another set.

ThunderThighs


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CAGrl wrote:So Scott says in the Vintner Voicemail that it's 100% Cabernet. However, the specs sheet says 92% Cabernet, 4% PV and 4% CF. So which is it? Thanks!



Looking at the last two sales, they had the same specs as we do now and Scott made no correction to it in the comments. I think he just misspoke in the voicemail. I'll send an email just in case though.

Update: See Scott's post below.



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rjquillin


quality posts: 189 Private Messages rjquillin
bsevern wrote:Yes how about that '03?

I've got a case of the '05...need '04 (did you make an '04?) and the '03 was terrific!

Yeah, an '04 exists, siting between my '03 and 05's. Gotta think of a reason to do a five year vertical tasting.

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teebodo


quality posts: 4 Private Messages teebodo

Purchased this at last offer on 1/17/2012 and, at $59.99 (black tie, remember those?) wished I had got more. Yes, the bottles are overly large and top-heavy, but, after a 12-hour decant, paired the Jana with the best steak of my life in the company of my two best buddies in celebration of us becoming fathers.
Thanks as always, Scott and Jana, which begs the question: how much longer should I hold the remaining bottle before peak?

hillig


quality posts: 10 Private Messages hillig

I'm pretty sure I bought this more than a year ago from WW.

It's quite good, I mean really quite good. To my personal tastes $50/bottle is about right, but just so. (I find you can do better for $50 with a Rhone varietal)

It's excellent cab in a more old world style, not the super extracted Napa wines making the pages of Wine Spectator now.

I would posit the lower rankings are a stylistic choice and not reflective of the wine quality.

P.S. The bottle is a conversation starter

dalematthew


quality posts: 24 Private Messages dalematthew
teebodo wrote:Purchased this at last offer on 1/17/2012 and, at $59.99 (black tie, remember those?) wished I had got more. Yes, the bottles are overly large and top-heavy, but, after a 12-hour decant, paired the Jana with the best steak of my life in the company of my two best buddies in celebration of us becoming fathers.
Thanks as always, Scott and Jana, which begs the question: how much longer should I hold the remaining bottle before peak?



Ah yes - I've added and consumed a bottle or two since (what a great price!) and while I have three left will be picking up a couple more.

Looking at my CT I'm missing the 04 out of my five year vertical - will need to rectify that too.

mike808


quality posts: 40 Private Messages mike808

Screw the SIWBM. In for 2 before it sells out.
$60 last time 2 years ago. So that's $7.50/yr/btl cellaring fees. I can live with that.

And I get to drink it more than once. What's not to like?

goaljnky


quality posts: 1 Private Messages goaljnky

It was a good bottle when it was at $54.99 for two. At $99, I'll have to pass.

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tryzub


quality posts: 5 Private Messages tryzub
goaljnky wrote:It was a good bottle when it was at $54.99 for two. At $99, I'll have to pass.



Same here. A bit overpriced.

mschauber


quality posts: 40 Private Messages mschauber
ThunderThighs wrote:Looking at the last two sales, they had the same specs as we do now and Scott made no correction to it in the comments. I think he just misspoke in the voicemail. I'll send an email just in case thought.



Here's the trade sheet for this juice
http://www.scottharveywines.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2005-Cathedral.pdf

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mschauber


quality posts: 40 Private Messages mschauber

Why oh why did I have to wake up and decide to get some work done at 3am????? I've been so good lately, only going in on an avg of 1 deal per month.... Then Scott & Jana you have to go and do this ;)

This juice is in my top 2 wine.woot purchases and what solidified my WW addiction. I have 9 bottles left in storage, so I guess I can justify a set to have at home. The price seems high and for someone like me that's always looking for the REALLY good buy you'd think I'd pass, but I can't. With a drinking window through 2022, you can't go wrong with the '05!

BTW, Happy Birthday Scott

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mschauber


quality posts: 40 Private Messages mschauber
loveladyelectric wrote:This is a lot of dough for a silver medalist.

Can anyone share their notes for this specific vintage? I've heard nothing but good.



FYI, here are the awards this wine won (Based on http://www.scottharveywines.com/press/awards-2/)


  • Gold – 91 Points – Beverage Testing Institute
  • 92 Points – Snooth
  • Silver – New World International Competition

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andreaserben


quality posts: 21 Private Messages andreaserben

Interested... but cannot justify that expense at that price point. Got too much other great juice to sip through. I might bite myself later on - but well ;)

rpm


quality posts: 183 Private Messages rpm

These are fine wines; if your pocketbook permits, you should buy this offer. 2005 was quite a good year and the wine is getting close to (start) being ready to drink (though I would wait at least a couple of more years....). Just do it.

Wine-tasting in 8 words:
Pull lots of corks!
Remember what you taste!

mother


quality posts: 15 Private Messages mother

I think someone has been spending too much time with Ty Caton ;)

Synos10


quality posts: 14 Private Messages Synos10

I actually popped one of these open two weeks ago. Unfortunately we had a crowd over and I did not have time to take really any notes. From what I remember. . . floral bouquet on the nose at opening. First sip had some cedar and cherry, slightly earthy. The wine definitely had some dust to it, accompanied by strong but adequate tannin. Definitely not an in your face Parker style, but more old world. There was a lot of what I look for in a cab/cab blend (generally what I buy the most).

Fantastic wine, and I plan on buying more with this reappearance. And yes, people did love the bottle.

dah7m


quality posts: 9 Private Messages dah7m

Interesting that Mr. Harvey opted to label this a meritage blend instead of Cabernet. At 92% CS, he's well within his rights to do so.
I have no real opinion on this, but from a marketing perspective, I would *think* that CS would be hotter, no?
Maybe it's a 6 of one, half dozen of the other situation....

mrn1


quality posts: 3 Private Messages mrn1

If there are any fellow Wooters out there that aren't aware of the Ohio gathering.....Scott & Jana Harvey will be pouring their '06 Jana Cathedral along w/ 6 other wines on 4/19. See the Ohio Gathering thread under the World of Wine Woot tab.

emmabean2000


quality posts: 6 Private Messages emmabean2000

Light up Wisconsin. Resistance is futile!

Chicago71


quality posts: 2 Private Messages Chicago71

I just read that a fella above decanted this wine for 12 hours? Holy $#!#.
Hey, I got no problem with that. Personally, the longest an open bottle has sat untouched in my house is an hour. I proudly say that I own a dozen ornate, beautiful bottle stoppers. Not one of them has ever been used. When I open a bottle, that mufugga gets finished.
I applaud 12 hours of patience. If something in my house is decanting for longer than an hour, there's a solid chance I'm dead on the floor and the cats are already picking at my cold, lifeless eyes.
FYI, if there are any ad execs on here, that is a brilliant commercial and I claim rights to it. For a price.
Chive on.

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rlmanzo


quality posts: 24 Private Messages rlmanzo
mother wrote:I think someone has been spending too much time with Ty Caton ;)



As above...

$55 to $100 in 2 years?

Wish my investments did as well.

I'm sure the wine is excellent, but....got to think about this one.

Is it broke or just fractured?

rpm


quality posts: 183 Private Messages rpm
rlmanzo wrote:As above...

$55 to $100 in 2 years?

Wish my investments did as well.

I'm sure the wine is excellent, but....got to think about this one.



It's called rationing by price. If the supply is limited (which with a library offering it is almost by definition), and demand exceeds it, the seller can capture more of the surplus value by raising the price. Scott and Jana are no fools. Stuff's gonna get a bit dearer, but if you think about it, the price of most things is up significantly over the past few years and the they incur costs keeping the wine in inventory. 's all good. Still expensive, but well worth if you've got the dosh.

Wine-tasting in 8 words:
Pull lots of corks!
Remember what you taste!

edlada


quality posts: 6 Private Messages edlada

Heavy sigh. I just took RPM's advice and just did it. Unfortunately I can't wait a couple more years to drink them and I will do so when I am in the US in May. I have heard a lot about Scott Harvey's old world touch with his wines and that is what I like. I look forward to these wines even if they will be a bit young.

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dalematthew


quality posts: 24 Private Messages dalematthew
rjquillin wrote:Yeah, an '04 exists, siting between my '03 and 05's. Gotta think of a reason to do a five year vertical tasting.



Scott / Monica - any chance of throwing in some of the 04 in with these 05s?

mother


quality posts: 15 Private Messages mother
rpm wrote: but if you think about it, the price of most things is up significantly over the past few years and the they incur costs keeping the wine in inventory. 's all good. Still expensive, but well worth if you've got the dosh.



The costs of carrying unsold inventory is not something you generally get to pass on to consumers, and prices are not generally up 55%, and certainly not for wine...

Scott and Jana have the right to ask whatever they want for their admittedly very good wine. As consumers we may buy, but the QPR is a lot lower than on the previous offers.

I would imagine they have limited quantities of this and don't need to sell the volume they normally do.

North316


quality posts: 107 Private Messages North316
tryzub wrote:Same here. A bit overpriced.



Dude, Wine dinner with Scott Harvey again this year. You guys coming?

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ScottHarveyWines


quality posts: 157 Private Messages ScottHarveyWines
CAGrl wrote:So Scott says in the Vintner Voicemail that it's 100% Cabernet. However, the specs sheet says 92% Cabernet, 4% PV and 4% CF. So which is it? Thanks!



I got it wrong in the voicemail. It is 92% Cabernet from the Martin Vineyard in Coombsville, 4% Petit Verdot from Penn Valley in Nevada County and 4% Cabernet Franc from the vineyard here around our house in St. Helena. It only took a silver, because 13.5 alcohol wines made in the great style that Napa Valley used to make in the 50's and 60's does not judge well in a line up of much higher alcohol wines. There was a question about the 2003. It is from the same Coombsville vineyard made in the same style. Drinking good right now with another 8 to 10 years of aging to go. There is a 2004, also in our wine library.

ScottHarveyWines


quality posts: 157 Private Messages ScottHarveyWines
mschauber wrote:

BTW, Happy Birthday Scott



Thanks for the birthday wishes.

ScottHarveyWines


quality posts: 157 Private Messages ScottHarveyWines
dah7m wrote:Interesting that Mr. Harvey opted to label this a meritage blend instead of Cabernet. At 92% CS, he's well within his rights to do so.
I have no real opinion on this, but from a marketing perspective, I would *think* that CS would be hotter, no?
Maybe it's a 6 of one, half dozen of the other situation....



I originally did not want to label it Cabernet in case in future vintages I wanted to make a blend with less than 75% Cabernet. We have decided to label it Cathedral Cabernet Sauvignon in the future starting with the 2010 vintage.

wineyum


quality posts: 6 Private Messages wineyum

I still have a number of these cellared, and thus am going to pass, but I will chime in that this is a great wine! It is possibly my favorite WW purchase ever (and I hit my 100th Woot buy this week- all but two were wine!) I opened this for my family at Christmas and everyone loved it. For some reason, I didn't take notes, but I agree with others that it is Old World style, which I love.