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Poll: Cork or screw-top?
  • 71.1% - Cork 860
  • 24.1% - Screw-top 292
  • 4.8% - Other (comments, please) 58
1210 votes

Well, how do you fare compared to the Zeitgeist? Chat up your fellow wooters and let us know how lame this poll was or what obvious choices we missed. For example: Was this poll a) STUPID, b) DUMB, c) POINTLESS or d) ALL OF THE ABOVE?

curtisuxor


quality posts: 56 Private Messages curtisuxor

Franzia's patented twist-spout.

FrostByte


quality posts: 11 Private Messages FrostByte

Either.

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natedogg828


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whatever the bottle I grab comes with

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tdedek


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As long as the enclosure has done it's job and I enjoy the contents of the bottle, I could go with either and possibly other enclosure options. The screw tops can be lined with various materials to allow the wine to breathe a little for long term aging, just like a cork. I normally have had screw tops that are 'drink now' wines, but recently purchased some screw top bottles to experiment with in the cellar over time.

I will always have a slight anxiety about either enclosure - will the screw top age as advertised after all the time and storage care given to it? Recent studies say yes, as long as up to date and informed practices are observed. When it comes to the cork, will we have TCA contamination? Has happened before and will happen again.

RocRizzo


quality posts: 2 Private Messages RocRizzo

What, no keg?
When we make our own, we generally use kegs to store it. The oak gives a good flavor!
We then decant it into 5 gallon carboys (you might have seen plastic ones on your water cooler, but they still make and sell glass ones).

We sometimes put it in old five gallon soda kegs and use CO2 to decant it.

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mickus


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either, it seems to be the way the industry is going.

ckeilah


quality posts: 149 Private Messages ckeilah

Cork is just nicely nostalgic.

I do worry a little about the plastics in modern enclosures leaching crap into the wine, but that's probably unfounded, and even less so, if the bottles are stored upright, which I think is okay with screwtops. Someone correct me if this isn't right.

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chardonay


quality posts: 29 Private Messages chardonay

I just loved the glass cork stopper that 'used automobile parts' wine uses. That is so darn slick!

What Contemptible Scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch??

chardonay


quality posts: 29 Private Messages chardonay

I read a few years back that the wine industry will never be able to go totally screw top, the reason being, if someone is paying 100 bucks for a bottle of wine, they can't wrap their head around a screw top, they want the cork presentation and I must admit, I agree

What Contemptible Scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch??

tiler100


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I prefer the synthetic cork to screw.

I sent a nice letter to my favorite vineyard when they converted to synthetic, thanking them for taking steps to eliminate the wasting of my favorite wine. They sent me a wine service and a baseball cap from their gift shop. It seems I was the sole voice gratitude among a multitude of whining complainers.

robinwoot4


quality posts: 0 Private Messages robinwoot4

What about box wine?

CharlesP2009


quality posts: 27 Private Messages CharlesP2009

As long as it's in a box with a spout I'm happy!

hosesplus


quality posts: 0 Private Messages hosesplus

Oh damn! You mean on a bottle of wine! Boy is my face red, I thought we were talking about sex.

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Superllama7


quality posts: 10 Private Messages Superllama7

As long as wine comes out when I remove the top, I don't care what it's made of

WizardofCOR


quality posts: 2 Private Messages WizardofCOR

Cork for reds and aged vintages, screw-top for wines not meant to age, like pinot grigio.

fuzzypeaches


quality posts: 10 Private Messages fuzzypeaches

Who cares as long as it tastes good!

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bkarlan


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chardonay wrote:I just loved the glass cork stopper that 'used automobile parts' wine uses. That is so darn slick!



Agreed. I loved it

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oilcrash


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tiler100 wrote:I prefer the synthetic cork to screw.



I,too, prefer synthetic corks. they are more easily re-used, do not deteriorate and possibly crumble into my wine, and if I remember correctly one brand of synthetic is the Zork!

Rosiernk


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Rosiernk

Screw top w/ a cork.. realy nice.

moose123


quality posts: 0 Private Messages moose123

What, no bottle or box option?

tercerowines


quality posts: 31 Private Messages tercerowines
chardonay wrote:I just loved the glass cork stopper that 'used automobile parts' wine uses. That is so darn slick!



You are correct in that these are quite slick, and I have plenty of friends who save the left over bottles to store others in.

My concerns with glass stoppers are the following:

very limited glass selection that these fit into from a bottling standpoint

machinery needed to use these on the bottling line is expensive and not readily available

not sure about the oxygen ingress / oxidation issues with these over the long haul - a much newer type of closure than all others

That said, again, I will agree that they are quite 'cool' . . .

Larry Schaffer
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tercerowines


quality posts: 31 Private Messages tercerowines
tiler100 wrote:I prefer the synthetic cork to screw.

I sent a nice letter to my favorite vineyard when they converted to synthetic, thanking them for taking steps to eliminate the wasting of my favorite wine. They sent me a wine service and a baseball cap from their gift shop. It seems I was the sole voice gratitude among a multitude of whining complainers.



Did you feel that screw caps were somehow 'wasting' your wines? If so, how? Curious to hear . . .

Cheers!

Larry Schaffer
tercero wines
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tercerowines


quality posts: 31 Private Messages tercerowines
WizardofCOR wrote:Cork for reds and aged vintages, screw-top for wines not meant to age, like pinot grigio.



Is this based on personal experience or just on the 'conventional wisdoms' of our industry?

This seems to be the way the industry talks about these closures, and I guess I wonder why.

Have you had any reds aged more than 5 years under screw cap? If so, how did they perform?

Curious to hear . . .

Larry Schaffer
tercero wines
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tercerowines


quality posts: 31 Private Messages tercerowines

This is such a 'difficult' choice to make in all honesty because of the inherent problems with corks . . .

Yes, I only use screwcaps with my wines, but let's forget that for a second. As a consumer, does it not bum you out to purchase a nice bottle of wine, lay it down for a good while, take it out and open it up only to find that it's been corked? May not happen often (probably more often than you think), but to me, as a consumer, once would be enough.

We seem to 'accept' this faulty product as part of the romanticism of the wine world, and I just don't think we should. And let's say you do notice that it's cork and you try to return the bottle . . . . and let's say that the retailer you purchased it from is willing to refund your money or exchange it. They will then try to get their money back from the distributor, who will then try to get their money back from the winery, who will then . . . but the buck stops here. Cork companies take no responsibility with regards to this.

Just my $.02 . . .

Larry Schaffer
tercero wines
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larry@tercerowines.com

chipgreen


quality posts: 176 Private Messages chipgreen

People's perceptions about screw caps are starting to change due to forward-thinking winemakers like yourself. I've got a feeling that it's going to be a long slow climb, though.

I am still coming to grips with it myself, my brain is absorbing it better than my heart

I have run across a couple bottles where the screw caps were not tightly sealed, one was so loose that I spilled wine out of it while cleaning dust off the bottle (a Pacific Rim Riesling IIRC), so that concerns me a little.

tercerowines


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chipgreen wrote:People's perceptions about screw caps are starting to change due to forward-thinking winemakers like yourself. I've got a feeling that it's going to be a long slow climb, though.

I am still coming to grips with it myself, my brain is absorbing it better than my heart

I have run across a couple bottles where the screw caps were not tightly sealed, one was so loose that I spilled wine out of it while cleaning dust off the bottle (a Pacific Rim Riesling IIRC), so that concerns me a little.



There certainly can be 'issues' with screwcaps as well - they are far from perfect. And I have run across situations where the rollers didn't hit the caps correctly on both areas during the bottling process.

My guess is that wine you had was still okay, correct? Or was it 'bad'?

Curious to hear . . .

Larry Schaffer
tercero wines
www.tercerowines.com
larry@tercerowines.com

chipgreen


quality posts: 176 Private Messages chipgreen
tercerowines wrote:There certainly can be 'issues' with screwcaps as well - they are far from perfect. And I have run across situations where the rollers didn't hit the caps correctly on both areas during the bottling process.

My guess is that wine you had was still okay, correct? Or was it 'bad'?

Curious to hear . . .


I can't honestly say, as I was wiping the bottle down in preparation to gift it, which I did after re-tightening the cap securely. So, hopefully....