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Goose Ridge Estate Merlot (3)

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Cesare


quality posts: 1697 Private Messages Cesare

Goose Ridge 2007 Estate Merlot 3-Pack
$59.99 (Normally $107.20) 44% off List Price
2007 Estate Merlot, Goose Ridge Estate Vineyard, Columbia Valley
CT link above

Winery website

Previous offer:
10/22/12 (Plus)

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MarkDaSpark


quality posts: 187 Private Messages MarkDaSpark



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Flybranda


quality posts: 2 Private Messages Flybranda

Whoa Whoa!

Hold down the chatter

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile, make the sage frolic, and the serious smile. -Homer

strean


quality posts: 1 Private Messages strean
Flybranda wrote:Whoa Whoa!

Hold down the chatter



Funny. I was thinkin' the same thing.

Comments? Opinions? Tasting notes? Political commentaries? Something?

free2day33611


quality posts: 2 Private Messages free2day33611

I'm not sure I have had a Washington state Merlot. In general, how does Washington state Merlot compare to California? Probably an unfair question since there are wide variety of Merlot.

jjfahey


quality posts: 6 Private Messages jjfahey

Merlot ? Really ?? :^D

kaolis


quality posts: 28 Private Messages kaolis

Love me some Washington State Merlot, lots of Merlot in Washington for a reason. Some info I dug up on this one:

88 POINTS
WINE ADVOCATE
“The 2007 Estate Merlot is medium purple with
a nose of cedar, spice box, violets, cassis, and
black cherry. Medium to full-bodied on the
palate with plenty of savory fruit…Enjoy over
the next 6 to 8 years.”
Jay Miller,
Wine Advocate, 8/2010

APPELLATION: Columbia Valley
BLEND: 100% Goose Ridge Estate Merlot
TOTAL ACIDITY: .87
pH: 3.76
ALCOHOL: 14.6%

rlmanzo


quality posts: 24 Private Messages rlmanzo

88 POINTS
WINE ADVOCATE
“The 2007 Estate Merlot is medium purple with
a nose of cedar, spice box, violets, cassis, and
black cherry. Medium to full-bodied on the
palate with plenty of savory fruit…Enjoy over
the next 6 to 8 years.”
Jay Miller,
Wine Advocate, 8/2010

I love Washington state wines and really think merlot has been undeservedly hosed because of Sideways, but a Jay Miller 88 is, to say the least, concerning.

I will be the first to admit that scores shouldn't be everything, but Jay Miller is notorious for giving average wine great scores. His 88 would be a Spectator 80...

That said, I really hope this is great wine and remain interested in hearing from someone(besides Jay Miller) who has actually had this wine...


Is it broke or just fractured?

mrlbem


quality posts: 4 Private Messages mrlbem
free2day33611 wrote:I'm not sure I have had a Washington state Merlot. In general, how does Washington state Merlot compare to California? Probably an unfair question since there are wide variety of Merlot.



I generally find Washington state Merlots to be bigger, I.e., more full bodied than their California counterparts. I love 'em.

kylemittskus


quality posts: 233 Private Messages kylemittskus
rlmanzo wrote:88 POINTS
WINE ADVOCATE
“The 2007 Estate Merlot is medium purple with
a nose of cedar, spice box, violets, cassis, and
black cherry. Medium to full-bodied on the
palate with plenty of savory fruit…Enjoy over
the next 6 to 8 years.”
Jay Miller,
Wine Advocate, 8/2010

I love Washington state wines and really think merlot has been undeservedly hosed because of Sideways, but a Jay Miller 88 is, to say the least, concerning.

I will be the first to admit that scores shouldn't be everything, but Jay Miller is notorious for giving average wine great scores. His 88 would be a Spectator 80...

That said, I really hope this is great wine and remain interested in hearing from someone(besides Jay Miller) who has actually had this wine...



JM's palate is absolutely horrible. And scores are horrible. HIs notes make this sound delicious. Med-full bodied, savory fruit, some floral notes, and enough tannin to give it structure (the drinking window).

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

kaolis


quality posts: 28 Private Messages kaolis
kylemittskus wrote:JM's palate is absolutely horrible. And scores are horrible. HIs notes make this sound delicious. Med-full bodied, savory fruit, some floral notes, and enough tannin to give it structure (the drinking window).



Not saying that I agree or don't agree with Mr Miller, just posting what I was able to find in doing a little homework on this wine, because as I stated I enjoy Washington Merlot.

For people who follow reviewers, it is simply a reference point...I like so-and-so's palate in Bordeaux, but not as much in Rhone wines, don't like this reviewer at all, etc. I will say for most all critics I will read the description, and throw out the points altogether.

So to that end I posted what I found. You don't like Miller, which means the review was indeed useful in your buying decision, or sounds like in this case not to buy.

I'm still on the fence.

Cheers!

Malink


quality posts: 5 Private Messages Malink

That bottle is so elegant! I'd love to have the bottle in my collection. Haven't tasted the wine unfortunately.

free2day33611


quality posts: 2 Private Messages free2day33611
mrlbem wrote:I generally find Washington state Merlots to be bigger, I.e., more full bodied than their California counterparts. I love 'em.



Thanks, based on my likes, that would is a good thing. I'm in for one. Would like to see some more input though.

fredrinaldi


quality posts: 42 Private Messages fredrinaldi

in for one

kylemittskus


quality posts: 233 Private Messages kylemittskus
kaolis wrote:Not saying that I agree or don't agree with Mr Miller, just posting what I was able to find in doing a little homework on this wine, because as I stated I enjoy Washington Merlot.



I responded to rlmanzo's post -- he posted the same review, but seemed to be making judgments based on JM's points. A terrible idea, IMO.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

emccarl


quality posts: 9 Private Messages emccarl
mrlbem wrote:I generally find Washington state Merlots to be bigger, I.e., more full bodied than their California counterparts. I love 'em.



I too like Washington Merlots, but am concerned that these are quite pricy. Also, very little information to go with it.

I've had great luck with Columbia Crest and Red Diamond Merlot(both under $10), as well as 2007 Reininger Helix Merlot that I purchased from woot, and the 2007 Chateau Ste. Michelle Indian Wells Merlot (of which I purchased 1.5 cases, and have only 3 coveted bottles left).

Can someone chime in and let me know if this Goose Ridge Estate Merlot is comperable to the Helix or Chateau Ste. Michelle Indian Wells? If so, I'm in for at least 2.

Thanks!

dieziege


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dieziege

It's worth noting that a few decades ago, Washington wine was largely defined by merlots with cabs coming second (for reds), and syrah barely a blip on the radar. There are still many excellent C.V. and W.W. merlot (and merlot blend) producers (Pepper Bridge, Northstar, Delille) even after the Sideways effect.

I'd be interested in how this offering stacks up with the Northstar Columbia Valley merlots, which are perhaps not the best Washington has to offer but remain a model of delicious consistency-- unfortunate pricing aside.

kylemittskus


quality posts: 233 Private Messages kylemittskus
emccarl wrote:Can someone chime in and let me know if this Goose Ridge Estate Merlot is comperable to the Helix or Chateau Ste. Michelle Indian Wells? If so, I'm in for at least 2.

Thanks!



I'm guessing, although I have had none of the wines mentioned, that this wine will be of substantially higher quality. Ch. St. M., for example, is a high production winery that makes hundreds of thousands of bottles per year. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that; however, their wines won't be as unique? changing year-to-year? trying to come up with a non-highbrow description here.

The rub here is that some people who drink the likes of Ch. St. M. and consider it of high quality may not like this wine as it won't be as commercialized.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

sphervey


quality posts: 39 Private Messages sphervey

I would like to get goosed by this Washington State Merlot but unfortunately they aren't shipping to Louisiana . . . I am counting my blessings since I USED to live in Virginia and would be hosed completely everywhere all
the time unless I delved into Wootlegging.

kaolis


quality posts: 28 Private Messages kaolis
kylemittskus wrote:I'm guessing, although I have had none of the wines mentioned, that this wine will be of substantially higher quality. Ch. St. M., for example, is a high production winery that makes hundreds of thousands of bottles per year. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that; however, their wines won't be as unique? changing year-to-year? trying to come up with a non-highbrow description here.

The rub here is that some people who drink the likes of Ch. St. M. and consider it of high quality may not like this wine as it won't be as commercialized.



Kyle..I'm confused...above you stated this wine was probably not a buy because Jay Miller liked it, now you praise it's high quality???

kylemittskus


quality posts: 233 Private Messages kylemittskus
kaolis wrote:Kyle..I'm confused...above you stated this wine was probably not a buy because Jay Miller liked it, now you praise it's high quality???



No. I just said ignore Miller's scores and that his description actually makes it sound good. The person who I was responding to said it wasn't a buy because JM gave it an 88, and alluded to the fact that 88 is a low score for JM.

kylemittskus wrote:JM's palate is absolutely horrible. And scores are horrible. HIs notes make this sound delicious. Med-full bodied, savory fruit, some floral notes, and enough tannin to give it structure (the drinking window).


To be clear, I didn't say this was high quality juice. I said I'm guessing it is compared to Ch. St. M. and the like.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

bobrush12866


quality posts: 8 Private Messages bobrush12866

Sorry to hijack this woot for a competitor Sonoma Valley Red Blend Ty Caton 'Tytanium' Caton Vineyard 2010 on WTSO for $34.99 a bottle w/free shipping for orders of 3 or more.

sphervey


quality posts: 39 Private Messages sphervey
bobrush12866 wrote:Sorry to hijack this woot for a competitor Sonoma Valley Red Blend Ty Caton 'Tytanium' Caton Vineyard 2010 on WTSO for $34.99 a bottle w/free shipping for orders of 3 or more.



Just got it I've wanted to try it and it popped up in my email Bet it sells out. How long should I cellar it?

bobrush12866


quality posts: 8 Private Messages bobrush12866
sphervey wrote:Just got it I've wanted to try it and it popped up in my email Bet it sells out. How long should I cellar it?



Ty's website indicates 2014-2021 as the drinking window.

kaolis


quality posts: 28 Private Messages kaolis
bobrush12866 wrote:Sorry to hijack this woot for a competitor Sonoma Valley Red Blend Ty Caton 'Tytanium' Caton Vineyard 2010 on WTSO for $34.99 a bottle w/free shipping for orders of 3 or more.



Not a fan of these field blends, particularly at this price point. Guess I'm just old fashioned.

klezman


quality posts: 130 Private Messages klezman
kaolis wrote:Not a fan of these field blends, particularly at this price point. Guess I'm just old fashioned.



That would actually make you new-fashioned (is that a phrase?). Field blends are the old way of doing things and monoclonal vineyard blocks with separate fermentations and post-hoc blending are relatively new technology in the wine world. Of course none of that matters in whether you like the wine or not, just that it's not a newfangled thing, those field blends

Also, TyTanium isn't a field blend. It's a separate fermentation post-aging blend (same as Wellington Victory, but with different grapes).

Back to this wine, though, the pH looks a little high to me. Otherwise I've had generally good luck with Washington wines, including Merlot. It does well in cooler climates like WA, BC, Niagara, and Bordeaux.

2014: 57 bottles. Last wine.woot: 2011 Wellington Cab & Merlot, Roessler 2009 Bluejay, 2010 Bell Cabernet
2013: 66 bottles, 2012: 91 bottles, 2011: 92 bottles, 2010: 74 bottles, 2009: 30 bottles, 2008: 3 bottles My CT

kaolis


quality posts: 28 Private Messages kaolis
klezman wrote:That would actually make you new-fashioned (is that a phrase?). Field blends are the old way of doing things and monoclonal vineyard blocks with separate fermentations and post-hoc blending are relatively new technology in the wine world. Of course none of that matters in whether you like the wine or not, just that it's not a newfangled thing, those field blends

Also, TyTanium isn't a field blend. It's a separate fermentation post-aging blend (same as Wellington Victory, but with different grapes).

Back to this wine, though, the pH looks a little high to me. Otherwise I've had generally good luck with Washington wines, including Merlot. It does well in cooler climates like WA, BC, Niagara, and Bordeaux.



My apologies if the Tytanium is not co-fermented, and Ty has previously referred to his Field Blend Red as a mini-Tytanium....and yes I realize blends/field blends have been around for a long time...but for the $80.00 Ty is asking on his website, or even the $40.00 on WTSO, no thank you. No right or wrong, just not a fan of people pumping up Cabernet and Merlot or Pinot with Syrah and PS and charging crazy prices.

cortot20


quality posts: 162 Private Messages cortot20
bobrush12866 wrote:Sorry to hijack this woot for a competitor Sonoma Valley Red Blend Ty Caton 'Tytanium' Caton Vineyard 2010 on WTSO for $34.99 a bottle w/free shipping for orders of 3 or more.



Please take this discussion here
http://wine.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?pageindex=31&postid=5118466

CT

klezman


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kaolis wrote:My apologies if the Tytanium is not co-fermented, and Ty has previously referred to his Field Blend Red as a mini-Tytanium....and yes I realize blends/field blends have been around for a long time...but for the $80.00 Ty is asking on his website, or even the $40.00 on WTSO, no thank you. No right or wrong, just not a fan of people pumping up Cabernet and Merlot or Pinot with Syrah and PS and charging crazy prices.



Regardless of its composition or manufacturing methods, I agree the price is kind of nuts. Ty's always been kind of cagey about the status of his "field blend". I think the 2005 was a true field blend, but I'm not sure about anything since then. Either way, back to the Washington Merlot.

If I was buying wine at this time I'd be highly tempted, but still I'd like to know more about the relatively high pH.

2014: 57 bottles. Last wine.woot: 2011 Wellington Cab & Merlot, Roessler 2009 Bluejay, 2010 Bell Cabernet
2013: 66 bottles, 2012: 91 bottles, 2011: 92 bottles, 2010: 74 bottles, 2009: 30 bottles, 2008: 3 bottles My CT