Flybranda
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Hold down the chatter
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rlmanzo
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88 POINTS
WINE ADVOCATE
“The 2007 Estate Merlot is medium purple with
a nose of cedar, spice box, violets, cassis, and
black cherry. Medium to full-bodied on the
palate with plenty of savory fruit…Enjoy over
the next 6 to 8 years.”
Jay Miller,
Wine Advocate, 8/2010
I love Washington state wines and really think merlot has been undeservedly hosed because of Sideways, but a Jay Miller 88 is, to say the least, concerning.
I will be the first to admit that scores shouldn't be everything, but Jay Miller is notorious for giving average wine great scores. His 88 would be a Spectator 80...
That said, I really hope this is great wine and remain interested in hearing from someone(besides Jay Miller) who has actually had this wine...
Is it broke or just fractured?
kylemittskus
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rlmanzo wrote:88 POINTS
WINE ADVOCATE
“The 2007 Estate Merlot is medium purple with
a nose of cedar, spice box, violets, cassis, and
black cherry. Medium to full-bodied on the
palate with plenty of savory fruit…Enjoy over
the next 6 to 8 years.”
Jay Miller,
Wine Advocate, 8/2010
I love Washington state wines and really think merlot has been undeservedly hosed because of Sideways, but a Jay Miller 88 is, to say the least, concerning.
I will be the first to admit that scores shouldn't be everything, but Jay Miller is notorious for giving average wine great scores. His 88 would be a Spectator 80...
That said, I really hope this is great wine and remain interested in hearing from someone(besides Jay Miller) who has actually had this wine...
JM's palate is absolutely horrible. And scores are horrible. HIs notes make this sound delicious. Med-full bodied, savory fruit, some floral notes, and enough tannin to give it structure (the drinking window).
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kylemittskus
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kaolis wrote:Not saying that I agree or don't agree with Mr Miller, just posting what I was able to find in doing a little homework on this wine, because as I stated I enjoy Washington Merlot.
I responded to rlmanzo's post -- he posted the same review, but seemed to be making judgments based on JM's points. A terrible idea, IMO.
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kylemittskus
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emccarl wrote:Can someone chime in and let me know if this Goose Ridge Estate Merlot is comperable to the Helix or Chateau Ste. Michelle Indian Wells? If so, I'm in for at least 2.
Thanks!
I'm guessing, although I have had none of the wines mentioned, that this wine will be of substantially higher quality. Ch. St. M., for example, is a high production winery that makes hundreds of thousands of bottles per year. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that; however, their wines won't be as unique? changing year-to-year? trying to come up with a non-highbrow description here.
The rub here is that some people who drink the likes of Ch. St. M. and consider it of high quality may not like this wine as it won't be as commercialized.
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"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen
"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen
kylemittskus
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kaolis wrote:Kyle..I'm confused...above you stated this wine was probably not a buy because Jay Miller liked it, now you praise it's high quality???
No. I just said ignore Miller's scores and that his description actually makes it sound good. The person who I was responding to said it wasn't a buy because JM gave it an 88, and alluded to the fact that 88 is a low score for JM.
kylemittskus wrote:JM's palate is absolutely horrible. And scores are horrible. HIs notes make this sound delicious. Med-full bodied, savory fruit, some floral notes, and enough tannin to give it structure (the drinking window).
To be clear, I didn't say this was high quality juice. I said I'm guessing it is compared to Ch. St. M. and the like.
"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke
"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen
"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen