Paul Dolan Wines Deep Red Mendocino Blend Mini-Vertical 2-Pack
$59.99 (Normally $100.20) 40% off List Price
2007 Deep Red Mendocino Blend
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Previous offer:
11/12/12 (Plus)

Uh oh. I can see the biodynamic debate coming!

ajrod27 wrote:Uh oh. I can see the biodynamic debate coming!

What debate?

Either you don't believe in it and don't want to buy the wine because you feel it helps contribute to VDDD. Or you don't care about the VDDD and because you (or someone you trust) likes the wine, you will buy it.

Buy or don't buy. There is no try.

I am overstocked on drink now wines and almost out of cellar for later wines...what kind of window does this wine have?

Sounds weird to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_wine

Seriously, I will say nothing this entire offer. It will be hard, but nothing from me. : X

why does the winery say bottles of this is are $44.99 & at the top of this blog the guy says normally sells for over $100 ? did he not listen to the winery notes on the sale page of this woot or not ?

ThunderThighs wrote:Take a look at the specs tab. That explains the numbers behind the list price shown on the sale's detail page - includes average sales tax and shipping costs.

still specs say $90.00 that's not $ 44.99 for 2 ?

my mistake ; (

MarkDaSpark wrote:What debate?

Either you don't believe in it and don't want to buy the wine because you feel it helps contribute to VDDD. Or you don't care about the VDDD and because you (or someone you trust) likes the wine, you will buy it.

Buy or don't buy. There is no try.

What the hell is vddd? Extreme std?

greyday wrote:What the hell is vddd? Extreme std?

Ok, I'll bite, what is Verd?

greyday wrote:What the hell is vddd? Extreme std?

Where is Kyle when you need him the most..?

jlemos wrote:Sounds weird to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_wine

4 sure.
Preparation 500 - Cow manure is buried in cow horns in the soil over winter. The horn is then dug up, its contents (called horn manure or '500') are then stirred in water and sprayed on the soil in the afternoon. The horn may be re-used as a sheath.

Sounds pagan to me. I'm not reusing the horn for a sheath in my household - just sayin'.

papamochi wrote:I am overstocked on drink now wines and almost out of cellar for later wines...what kind of window does this wine have?

sjb111ca wrote:

I am the manager of the Direct to Consumer Division at Paul Dolan Vineyards and am stocked we are offering this wine today on Woot. In answer to your question about shelf life, this wine can be put up for 10+ years easily as it is Syrah and Petit Syrah based. When we do a verticle tasting of these across six years, the older ones complexity just gets better.

This is the first time we have ever offering these wines together for a sale. Hopefully folks will enjoy the sale!

greyday wrote:What the hell is vddd? Extreme std?

Those that detest Biodynamics (due to the lack of science involved) refer to it as "Voodoo DooDoo". Thus, VDDD.

There's a whole thread about it, around here somewhere.



If the winemaker pops in, I'd be interested in the reasons for the varietal changes between the two vintages. As in, why more PS in the second?

I had a recent opportunity to try the 2008 Deep Red, Mendocino Blend, which consists of 37% PS, 30% Primotivo, 28% Syrah and 5% Grenache. Upon PnP, I found the wine to have a nice burgundy color, but it was still translucent (in front of a piece of white paper). The aroma was of dark fruits, with a little oak. Initial tasting revealed cherry, then plum and a finish of dark chocolate. I recorked it and let it sit until I met an hour and a half later with some friends. We tasted this together. In the group were those that preferred reds, others whites and even those that preferred beer. The words used by the group to describe this wine included: fruity, oaky/smoky, dry (as in tannins), a little sweet and a little bitter (a strange range). The fruit flavors I found on the PnP had mellowed. We all agreed that this wine would go very well with a hearty meat. I preferred the PnP flavors, which were more PS-like, than the mellowed dark fruit flavors of two hours later. While I am a big advocate for decanting, if I bought this wine, I would probably drink it it as a PnP due to the bigger fruit favors. Three out of six of my friends liked this wine, while three were indifferent about it. (Note: no one in the group was aware of or could have cared less about the methods used to produce this wine. They are just people who enjoy drinking wine.)

jhudelson wrote:
Sounds pagan to me. I'm not reusing the horn for a sheath in my household - just sayin'.

Christmas started out as a Pagan ritual. Personally, I don't care about the biodynamic part but can appreciate the organic part. Just good farming practices in action.

chipgreen wrote:Christmas started out as a Pagan ritual. Personally, I don't care about the biodynamic part but can appreciate the organic part. Just good farming practices in action.

Please read what Peter says (see, it's not me saying something but PW).

kylemittskus wrote: Please read what Peter says (see, it's not me saying something but PW).

I probably should have qualified my statement to note that I believe organic practices should at least be supplemented with synthetic chemicals (fertilizers/pesticides/herbicides) as needed.

I spent 20+ years in the landscape industry where I was a big proponent of IPM (Integrated Pest Management).

In a nutshell, "Integrated Pest Management (IPM) is an effective and environmentally sensitive approach to pest management that relies on a combination of common-sense practices."

The idea is not to eliminate synthetic chemicals entirely but to limit their use in combination with other methods; organics, tolerance thresholds, timing patterns, etc., in order to achieve the best possible results with minimal harm to the environment.

Hey wooters! I tried the 2008 version of this offering recently and have some notes to share....give me a few minutes to settle down (2 and 4 year old boys are a handful...) and I will post. I am not a professional or as well versed on wine tasting notes as some wooters on here but I know enough to hopefully be of some help

MarkDaSpark wrote:Those that detest Biodynamics (due to the lack of science involved) refer to it as "Voodoo DooDoo". Thus, VDDD.

There's a whole thread about it, around here somewhere.



If the winemaker pops in, I'd be interested in the reasons for the varietal changes between the two vintages. As in, why more PS in the second?

The winemaker is on his way to a much needed vacation right now after the amazing harvest everyone had this year. Each year Deep Red is made, the varietal blend will change according to the quality of the fruit in that year. Deep Red is always blended to impart multiple levels of complexity and richness for how the wine will taste after a couple of years aging in various oak barrels.

I will post more info once he texts me back with more info.

I spent thirty minutes posting ans managed to lose everything! Ging to have to shorten my tasting notes on the 2008 Deep Red.

Wife and I had this over two days. The bottle is very classy in person( for what it's worth)

Day 1

Color: dark almost black purple/violet with

some ruby red when held against the light (Grenache influence?) Nice colr

Nose: she got Candy cotton/jelly donut while I got some banana (yes, banana!) immediately after opening. I was expecting dark fruits based on the blend. Anyway, after about 15 minuted the wine settled and I got some leather/tobacconist o. The nose. Not much fruit though. Seems tight

Taste: wife said it was good but tannins very high and drying. I did not get much fruit at all but tasted some cedar, tobacco leaves...wine felt very tight so I poured a glass and re-corked. I also noted is wine is NOT a sipper but a rib eye wine for sure.

Four hours later: I tried the glass I poured And still not much fruit and the 15 % alc showing.

Wife agreed. Not looking good (was expecting

more).

DAY 2

Wow! Is this the same bottle? I tried about 24 hours after opening And the wine has completely changed.

The nose has some dark fruit to it....boysenberry and plum? Pleasant.


Taste: smooth and classy. My wife said she can tell it is a classy wine (we usually drink 15-20 dollar bottles) and not something we usually drink. I had not shared with her the price. She commented she can tell this would go great with steak nd that it was better than day 1.

I definitely got the fruit I was looking for or expecting. Some boysenberry jam (with Jo
sugar added) as well as some anise and a smooth, lingering finish. Not too lingering though. I also got some shaved dark chocolate type finish.

This wine is NoT at all new world. I would say more old world as it has some tobacco, earth undertones to its balanced, dark fruit notes. The petite sirah's influence is very obvious...I think the PS is what caused this wine to be tight day 1. I did not taste much Grenache or

primitivo in the blend though I know they are there.

I think this bottle is too young to open now and would let it sit. Few years for e PS to
settle in the blend. Again, I am not an expert just going based on what I've read here and my experience with this bottle being 10x better on day 2.

Hope this helps.


*EDIT three hours after my original post....left bottle open and now Raspberry and cherry notes are coming through....definitley fruitier than earlier...red as opposed to black fruits...interesting wine to say the least...i definitley taste the Grenache influence....