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Ty Caton Estate Cabernet Sauvignon (2)

Speed to First Woot:
2m 45.441s
First Sucker:
mstern20878
Last Wooter to Woot:
zmanonice
Last Purchase:
2 years ago
Order Pace (rank):
Top 45% of Wine Woots
Bottom 49% of all Woots
Woots Sold (rank):
Bottom 32% of Wine Woots
Bottom 39% of all Woots

Purchaser Experience

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  • 77% ≥ 25 woots

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  • 2% joined today
  • 0% one week old
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  • 9% one year old
  • 88% > one year old

Quantity Breakdown

  • 84% bought 1
  • 7% bought 2
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Quality Posts

  • (9:34 AM, 11/20/2012) rlmanzo calls it, "average".


mstern20878


quality posts: 9 Private Messages mstern20878

T C, one of my favs. In for one.

Cesare


quality posts: 1561 Private Messages Cesare

Ty Caton 2010 Estate Cabernet Sauvignon 2-Pack
$59.99 (Normally $88.00) 32% off List Price
2010 Estate Cabernet Sauvignon
CT link above

Winery website

Previous offer:
7/2/12 (Plus)

-il Cesare
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“In the entire world there are only a few sounds that bring joy to all but the most jaded. One is the murmur of a kitten purring. Another is the thwack of a well-pitched baseball hitting a perfectly swung bat. And the third is the pop of a cork being pulled from a bottle of wine.” —George Taber

daledobak


quality posts: 2 Private Messages daledobak

I don't understand why this lasts so long -- this is a fantastic wine!

rugrats2001


quality posts: 14 Private Messages rugrats2001

REAL list price is $44 per bottle, so Woot list hasn't been inflated with shipping & tax. Buy up!

Cyradia


quality posts: 29 Private Messages Cyradia
daledobak wrote:I don't understand why this lasts so long -- this is a fantastic wine!



QPR

I agree the Q is fantastic, but the P is high. The ratio is 'meh'.

ego48


quality posts: 5 Private Messages ego48

had trouble finding the link on CT as it is named slightly different - great that C is back.

TC website does have it for $44, but the two stores in CA have it for significantly less... keep thinking maybe i'm looking at the wrong wine, but i'm pretty sure i'm not

greyday


quality posts: 51 Private Messages greyday
Cyradia wrote:QPR

I agree the Q is fantastic, but the P is high. The ratio is 'meh'.



Thanks, it's been a loooong night, and this made me laugh. I still bought one though.

charliecarroll


quality posts: 104 Private Messages charliecarroll

I have never tried it but with all that is being said and because I have already unlocked free shipping I am thinking but just can't seem to pull the trigger. I'll have to give it a few more minutes. Probably will get the sudden urge and commitment just to come back and see, "sold out".

EmirSehovic


quality posts: 0 Private Messages EmirSehovic

Anyone in doubt... this is a great wine and if it wasn't for the price, I'd drink this daily.

I had 6 from a woot off a while back (a long while) and it tastes better every bottle we open.

TY is autobuy for me and this bottle is no different

cortot20


quality posts: 130 Private Messages cortot20
daledobak wrote:I don't understand why this lasts so long -- this is a fantastic wine!



It's the price. Basically a wine club discount on a winery that has dramatically increased its prices over the last five years. As the price on his wines have gone up its taken noticeably longer to move his bottles on wine.woot. It's a big bummer because it moved his wines from auto buy to only buying his lower level blends like Ty's red and the Racchus label foe me.

CT

noslensj


quality posts: 41 Private Messages noslensj

Does anyone know how this differs - in any way other than having a slightly different label - from "Winemaker's Cuvee" that shows up on WTSO at about $20/bottle?

christy111777


quality posts: 0 Private Messages christy111777

VA shipping is back?

scott0210


quality posts: 6 Private Messages scott0210

A few weeks ago I was able to buy 3 bottles of Tytanium, shipped, for $35.00 a bottle at another site. And that lists for $80 on Ty's website. The woot discounts are very disappointing anymore.

tuerkish


quality posts: 0 Private Messages tuerkish
Cyradia wrote:QPR

I agree the Q is fantastic, but the P is high. The ratio is 'meh'.



Agreed. I have never been disappointed by a Ty wine, but the price point only supports a certain amount. It would be nice if a Racchus or Ty's Red would pop up in the woot off!

Cyradia


quality posts: 29 Private Messages Cyradia
scott0210 wrote:A few weeks ago I was able to buy 3 bottles of Tytanium, shipped, for $35.00 a bottle at another site. And that lists for $80 on Ty's website. The woot discounts are very disappointing anymore.



Now that's impressive. I'd have been all over that deal.

I really enjoy Ty's stuff. Like I said, it's just the QPR that holds me back. I think he really shines on his blends and the Tytanium is wonderful...it's just not as wonderful as a half case of other really good CA juice...which is about how it's priced now.

noslensj


quality posts: 41 Private Messages noslensj
cortot20 wrote:It's the price. Basically a wine club discount on a winery that has dramatically increased its prices over the last five years. As the price on his wines have gone up its taken noticeably longer to move his bottles on wine.woot. It's a big bummer because it moved his wines from auto buy to only buying his lower level blends like Ty's red and the Racchus label foe me.


I suspect so as well. I think Ty has raised his prices to a point that is at and sometimes above what the market can bear. So now his wine is moving more slowly and he is sometimes winding up with product he needs to clear out.

I suspect that the "Winemaker's Cuvee" I linked to above is the exact same wine as this offering, but by calling it a cuvee he can say it's different from what he is offering to his wine club members and distributors as he moves it through other channels.

ego48


quality posts: 5 Private Messages ego48
scott0210 wrote:A few weeks ago I was able to buy 3 bottles of Tytanium, shipped, for $35.00 a bottle at another site. And that lists for $80 on Ty's website. The woot discounts are very disappointing anymore.



and to your point, i bought the 2009 tytanium at woot a year ago for $37.50 per bottle delivered -and that goes for $110 on TC site.

love the wine, believe Ty deserves all price increases, unfortunately takes me out of buying more often than not.

slm9951


quality posts: 14 Private Messages slm9951
christy111777 wrote:VA shipping is back?



More than likely an error. But could someone from the head office check this out for us thirsty Virginians?

rlmanzo


quality posts: 23 Private Messages rlmanzo

I hate to say it but I have bought a ton of Ty's wines based on Woot hype.

It has all been thoroughly average. Tytanium included.

I now have a basement full of unremarkable, overpriced wine.

More than perhaps any other winemaker regularly on Woot he has capitalized on the appeal of this site.

Buyer beware....

Is it broke or just fractured?

losthighwayz


quality posts: 58 Private Messages losthighwayz

I'll reiterate what I've said before: Ty wines are priced at double their worth on his website and tasting room. The Tytanium is listed at 80 though I would pay 40 and not more. Yes, it is a well- made wine worth $40 but not even close to $80. My two cents.

"The older I get the better I was"

ktrenholm


quality posts: 2 Private Messages ktrenholm

This will make a good Xmas gift for the parents. Not much of a red wine drinker myself. Gives me nasty heartburn.

tytiger58


quality posts: 74 Private Messages tytiger58
rlmanzo wrote:I hate to say it but I have bought a ton of Ty's wines based on Woot hype.

It has all been thoroughly average. Tytanium included.

I now have a basement full of unremarkable, overpriced wine.

More than perhaps any other winemaker regularly on Woot he has capitalized on the appeal of this site.

Buyer beware....



Why would you fill your basement with a wine based on hype??

I have bought many times based on hype but if i don't like it i just don't buy it again.

I think many people around here love his wine If it doesn't fit your pallet i don't think anyone is taking advantage.


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shakerstyle


quality posts: 0 Private Messages shakerstyle

Appears to be selling for $20 a bottle elsewhere. Woot deals need to be verified.

greyday


quality posts: 51 Private Messages greyday
shakerstyle wrote:Appears to be selling for $20 a bottle elsewhere. Woot deals need to be verified.



Not to be overly picky about semantics, but verified how, exactly? They show list and offer a price. They don't guarantee the lowest price as far as I know...

inkycatz


quality posts: 105 Private Messages inkycatz

Delicious news, wine buddies! This wine has dropped in price to a lovely $59.99. Everyone who has purchased it will get the reduced price, of course (we've got your back)... as for the rest of you, it's Ty Caton, it's a Cab... what are you waiting for?

ps. No VA still, sorry.

I'm just hanging out, really.

mudderfudder77


quality posts: 0 Private Messages mudderfudder77

Price drop. Will pushing it under 30 a bottle get this product moving?

mmille24


quality posts: 0 Private Messages mmille24
rlmanzo wrote:I hate to say it but I have bought a ton of Ty's wines based on Woot hype.

It has all been thoroughly average. Tytanium included.

I now have a basement full of unremarkable, overpriced wine.

More than perhaps any other winemaker regularly on Woot he has capitalized on the appeal of this site.

Buyer beware....



+1.

I bought this wine on hype a couple years ago. As you noted, it was just average. Very overpriced if you ask me.

rlmanzo


quality posts: 23 Private Messages rlmanzo
tytiger58 wrote:Why would you fill your basement with a wine based on hype??

I have bought many times based on hype but if i don't like it i just don't buy it again.

I think many people around here love his wine If it doesn't fit your pallet i don't think anyone is taking advantage.



I agree that palates will differ.

As evidenced by my black square, I have bought quite a lot of wine on Woot. I have never bought the same Ty wine twice, but given the enthusiasm of posters on this board, (who generally give great advice) I have a few times bought 2 or 3 sets of offerings.

I remain unimpressed with his wines.

I have not encountered this with any other regular winemaker on Woot.

His wines are not bad; just average and very overpriced.

I know that my experience is not unique.



Is it broke or just fractured?

tuerkish


quality posts: 0 Private Messages tuerkish
mudderfudder77 wrote:Price drop. Will pushing it under 30 a bottle get this product moving?



Changing it to 2/49.99 probably would.

snarfii


quality posts: 0 Private Messages snarfii

Am I misunderstanding the deal? Looks like Los Angeles Wine Co. has it for 2/3 of the Woot price.

Other online merchants have similar pricing.

thenativesarerestless


quality posts: 5 Private Messages thenativesarerestless
snarfii wrote:Am I misunderstanding the deal? Looks like Los Angeles Wine Co. has it for 2/3 of the Woot price.

Other online merchants have similar pricing.



fwiw
shipping to my zip code is $24.50

charliecarroll


quality posts: 104 Private Messages charliecarroll
snarfii wrote:Am I misunderstanding the deal? Looks like Los Angeles Wine Co. has it for 2/3 of the Woot price.

Other online merchants have similar pricing.



Uh....
Links please?

crawform


quality posts: 0 Private Messages crawform
charliecarroll wrote:Uh....
Links please?



The link is in his post. Just click on "Los Angeles Wine Co."

crawform


quality posts: 0 Private Messages crawform
thenativesarerestless wrote:fwiw
shipping to my zip code is $24.50



Yep, estimated shipping to Menlo Park, CA is $20.

noslensj


quality posts: 41 Private Messages noslensj

Even at the reduced price this seems to be moving verrrryyyy slowwwwlyyyyy.

rugrats2001


quality posts: 14 Private Messages rugrats2001

Sometimes we forget that Woot can't REALLY ship wine for $5, and that the balance HAS to be in the price, if they want to stay in business. You do want them to stay in business, don't you?

jplamb


quality posts: 15 Private Messages jplamb

I've always enjoyed Ty's wines, but I don't feel these are a deal at over $30/bottle. You could have picked up the same or similar wine at WTSO for $20 (I have a half case of that) and back when Ty started on here his cab was always $20/bottle. I think at $20 it's a great buy, but apparently he feels like he's built up enough good will from his past appearances that the price can be jacked up. Plus with his wines pretty much only appearing on the Woot Offs now there is now zero winemaker participation.

tccontender


quality posts: 0 Private Messages tccontender
rugrats2001 wrote:Sometimes we forget that Woot can't REALLY ship wine for $5, and that the balance HAS to be in the price, if they want to stay in business. You do want them to stay in business, don't you?



They are owned by Amazon, I am not so concerned about their bottom line.

mbmiche


quality posts: 6 Private Messages mbmiche

FYI--LA Wine Co. is down to 3 bottles of the TY. Shipping to just outside of Chicago is $23.