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Ardente Estate Winery Library Cab (3)

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Cesare


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Ardente Estate Winery Library Cabernet 3-Pack
$59.99 (Normally $129.20*) 54% off List Price
1997 Ardente Cabernet Sauvignon, Atlas Peak, Napa Valley
2001 Ardente Cabernet Sauvignon, Atlas Peak, Napa Valley
2002 Ardente Cabernet Sauvignon, Atlas Peak, Napa Valley
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    cortot20


    quality posts: 163 Private Messages cortot20

    I have not had any of these wines, nor can I vouch for the quality here, but based on the combination of age/price/varietal/ava this should sell through rather quickly.

    Who knows something about these other than whats on the stats page?

    CT

    Winedavid39


    quality posts: 214 Private Messages Winedavid39

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    cortot20 wrote:I have not had any of these wines, nor can I vouch for the quality here, but based on the combination of age/price/varietal/ava this should sell through rather quickly.

    Who knows something about these other than whats on the stats page?



    These are a find. iffy label, outstanding pedigree, well made.

    cmaldoon


    quality posts: 62 Private Messages cmaldoon
    cortot20 wrote:I have not had any of these wines, nor can I vouch for the quality here, but based on the combination of age/price/varietal/ava this should sell through rather quickly.

    Who knows something about these other than whats on the stats page?



    I know that the 2004s have been selling at similar ($20) price points if one buys by the case from another retailer but this appears to have 3 fantastic years (I have heard inklings of '02 being under rated) and it has woot priced shipping. This does appear to be a true woot wine deal. I too say this will be a rapid sell out.

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    MarkDaSpark


    quality posts: 187 Private Messages MarkDaSpark




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    kylemittskus


    quality posts: 233 Private Messages kylemittskus

    I'm not buying wine, but this is the kind of deal you can't "buy for the same price at the grocery store." Nice deal, WD.

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    nealkb


    quality posts: 13 Private Messages nealkb

    These labels look familiar. I think they were on the wtso sale?

    Neal K Bharadwaj

    cortot20


    quality posts: 163 Private Messages cortot20

    i see that the winemaker for the 97' was Philippe Melka, I have no idea who this is but I also noticed he is not listed on the other two vintages. Who made those? because spec wise the wines seem similar except the alcohol.

    CT

    Winedavid39


    quality posts: 214 Private Messages Winedavid39

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    Cesare, you have a PM.

    ajrod27


    quality posts: 41 Private Messages ajrod27

    Had the 2001 Cab a couple weeks ago with dinner at the Fig Cafe. I didn't take formal notes but I remember it going well with my meal of duck confit and lamb sausage. It still has a lot of fruit left and some secondary green characteristics poking through. I wouldn't say it's past peak, it is drinking rather well now; will probably continue to develop over the next 5 years. At this price, it is a definite buy!

    cortot20


    quality posts: 163 Private Messages cortot20

    Since someone else noted this winery was on another deal site recently and this offer is not a typical type of offer, it begs the question, is this winery liquidating or have they been purchased and the new owners are liquidating old inventory?

    CT

    cmaldoon


    quality posts: 62 Private Messages cmaldoon
    nealkb wrote:These labels look familiar. I think they were on the wtso sale?



    The 2003 was, I have also seen the 2004 up.

    The 97 and 2001 vintages were absolutely fantastic and 02 was pretty damned good too. Other sites got the cast offs, WD found us the gold.

    It is often said by mid level Bordeaux drinkers, buy the lesser houses in the best years rather than the big houses in off years. Take these as being a lesser winery in years where it would be difficult to make bad wine.

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    cortot20


    quality posts: 163 Private Messages cortot20
    Winedavid39 wrote:These are a find. iffy label, outstanding pedigree, well made.



    I agree with you on the labels being bad. They say the label design should not influence sales since its about whats inside. But its almost as if they are not trying to sell their wine with that design.

    CT

    Winedavid39


    quality posts: 214 Private Messages Winedavid39

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    cmaldoon wrote:The 2003 was, I have also seen the 2004 up.

    The 97 and 2001 vintages were absolutely fantastic and 02 was pretty damned good too. Other sites got the cast offs, WD found us the gold.

    It is often said by mid level Bordeaux drinkers, buy the lesser houses in the best years rather than the big houses in off years. Take these as being a lesser winery in years where it would be difficult to make bad wine.





    well put.

    jimjacks66


    quality posts: 32 Private Messages jimjacks66

    It appears the producer of these is Ardente and not Atlas Peak as some CT links indicate. This was verified by Cesare in a deleted post.

    MarkDaSpark


    quality posts: 187 Private Messages MarkDaSpark
    Winedavid39 wrote:These are a find. iffy label, outstanding pedigree, well made.



    Inquiring minds want to know how to tell the difference between the 2001 & 2002? The labels appear to be missing the vintage that is on the 1997 bottle.

    I'd rather not try to guess which is which!!!


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    ThunderThighs


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    FYI: Cleaned out some of the CT discussion that seems to be resolved (by request). Carry on.



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    nealkb


    quality posts: 13 Private Messages nealkb

    I haven't tried this wine yet. But a wine from the same ava, atlas peak, is on wtso with good ratings. I can only imagine it must have equally high ratings? If I can order them in the morning I'm in.

    Neal K Bharadwaj

    forumc40


    quality posts: 0 Private Messages forumc40

    This wine does seem to be popping up a lot lately! I can't speak for these vintages, but I had a bottle of the 2004 about a month ago, and was very happy with it. I think at it's original price point, there is some stiff competition, but at 20/bottle, you can't go wrong. Regarding the 04, CT reviewers commented there was a little bit of inconsistency, but if these are anything like the bottle I had, it's a deal. In for one.

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    greyday


    quality posts: 55 Private Messages greyday

    I resisted the corisone, but can't pass this up. In for three.

    fredrinaldi


    quality posts: 42 Private Messages fredrinaldi

    It's a Cab, in for 2

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    wgschick


    quality posts: 0 Private Messages wgschick

    In checking the winery website (http://www.ardentewinery.com/Library_Wines2.asp), they have the 1997 and 2002 library cabs listed for $330/6 bottles. Wine.woot is definitely a good deal today.

    dalematthew


    quality posts: 24 Private Messages dalematthew

    In for 2!

    true559


    quality posts: 25 Private Messages true559

    Hmmmmmmmmm. Seems like a unique buying opportunity here. Gonna have to think about this one.

    hibliss


    quality posts: 2 Private Messages hibliss

    I am intrigued....in for 2.

    rpm


    quality posts: 183 Private Messages rpm
    Winedavid39 wrote:These are a find. iffy label, outstanding pedigree, well made.



    This has to be worth a flyer for one, if not more. 2 very good older years + 2002 for $60.

    The 1997 has very good stats and looks very interesting

    Parker likes the 2001, which doesn't augur well for its longevity because it's probably pretty fruit forward. A chance to see how that style's aging, though.

    2002 looks to be very much like the 2001, numberswise, but probably not the wine the 2001 is.

    It's hard to pull the trigger after Corison on the website and a 2005 Corison Kronos/Napa Valley find in the vicinity, but I think one's in order.

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    rockoverlondon


    quality posts: 0 Private Messages rockoverlondon
    cortot20 wrote:Since someone else noted this winery was on another deal site recently and this offer is not a typical type of offer, it begs the question, is this winery liquidating or have they been purchased and the new owners are liquidating old inventory?



    I was wondering this myself. I'm also wondering if this operation is still in business? Based on the website it appears that the most current vintage is 2004. It sounds like this vineyard was a hobby turned into a business and then back to a hobby and now they're offloading inventory for cash flow? Anyone have any insight into what's going on here?

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    cortot20 wrote:I have not had any of these wines, nor can I vouch for the quality here, but based on the combination of age/price/varietal/ava this should sell through rather quickly.

    Who knows something about these other than whats on the stats page?



    Don't let the "vintage" label fool ya! These wines are incredible! Carlo is a meticulous owner on top of every detail of his businesses. These wines are made to age. They are made with the best quality grapes, aged in french oak and then aged in bottle for two years prior to release. You will not be disappointed!

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    rockoverlondon wrote:I was wondering this myself. I'm also wondering if this operation is still in business? Based on the website it appears that the most current vintage is 2004. It sounds like this vineyard was a hobby turned into a business and then back to a hobby and now they're offloading inventory for cash flow? Anyone have any insight into what's going on here?



    The winery is still very much in business! As mentioned on another reply, Carlo ages his wines both in barrel and in bottle. 2 years in bottle! Therefore, his releases are quite a bit behind others. He hasn't even released his 2006 yet...This sale is to create some marketing buzz around the winery especially since many are unfamiliar with the Atlas Peak area.

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    hibliss wrote:I am intrigued....in for 2.



    I just opened a few yesterday for a party. The wine was gulped down within 30 minutes by people who said, "I don't like wine.." Just sayin!

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    dalematthew wrote:In for 2!



    We will not disappoint. Enjoy! These wines may have an "iffy" label but what matters is what is inside. Well balanced, rich and smooth Atlas Peak Cabernet Sauvignons. Incredibly well made.

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    greyday wrote:I resisted the corisone, but can't pass this up. In for three.



    Try to save a few bottles to share with friends. It will be difficult to resist keeping them to yourself;)

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    MarkDaSpark wrote:Inquiring minds want to know how to tell the difference between the 2001 & 2002? The labels appear to be missing the vintage that is on the 1997 bottle.

    I'd rather not try to guess which is which!!!



    They are listed on the back of the label so you won't have to guess

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    nealkb wrote:These labels look familiar. I think they were on the wtso sale?



    Yes, unfortunately, a distributor made a deal with WTSO before the woot deal...not a decision made by the winery. Don't let it hold you back though! These are 3 amazing vintages! WTSO only had one.

    inkycatz


    quality posts: 105 Private Messages inkycatz
    ardentevintner wrote:Yes, unfortunately, a distributor made a deal with WTSO before the woot deal...not a decision made by the winery. Don't let it hold you back though! These are 3 amazing vintages! WTSO only had one.



    Thanks for the clarification!

    I'm just hanging out, really.

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    rockoverlondon wrote:I was wondering this myself. I'm also wondering if this operation is still in business? Based on the website it appears that the most current vintage is 2004. It sounds like this vineyard was a hobby turned into a business and then back to a hobby and now they're offloading inventory for cash flow? Anyone have any insight into what's going on here?



    Yes, the winery is still very much in business. Carlo doesn't do anything as a hobby! If you know anything about Mr. Espresso you will understand what I am talking about. He has the same attitude about his winery and works hand-on with everyone involved with his vineyard/winery. This is just a great deal put on to promote the label. Let's be real. Easy to get lost among the plethora of Napa Valley cabs...

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    inkycatz wrote:Thanks for the clarification!



    You are very welcome!

    ardentevintner


    quality posts: 18 Private Messages ardentevintner
    rockoverlondon wrote:I was wondering this myself. I'm also wondering if this operation is still in business? Based on the website it appears that the most current vintage is 2004. It sounds like this vineyard was a hobby turned into a business and then back to a hobby and now they're offloading inventory for cash flow? Anyone have any insight into what's going on here?



    Check out my reply below. Definitely not going out of business! Carlo is Italian and his wife French. They're winemaking perspective is unique. They make wines to age. Once you try the wines you will see how well these wines hold up! Cheers

    ERMD


    quality posts: 1 Private Messages ERMD

    In for 3