mschauber wrote:I totally follow you and I'm sure to some extent you are correct. But, the technique of rolling shipping costs into product pricing (something Amazon is famous for, remember when product prices used to be higher if you were logged in with a Prime account than if you weren't logged in?,) is a great way for companies to raise prices overall. I'd be willing to bet that by the time summer shipping season is over that the discussion of increased prices will be long forgotten and even with shipping costs lowered, we won't see a decrease in per bottle prices.
Now don't get me wrong, I now we get great deals here, often for wines we couldn't get elsewhere. Shipping costs are phenomenal. I'm just saying let's call a spade a spade. While I'm sure this isn't a forum where he would discuss it, that Peter is either already feeling a pinch from Amazon or will start very soon. Let's face it, Amazon is all about bottom dollar. Woot, while bottom dollar mattered, was very much about great deals and the community. Priorities at the very top have changed.
This is from the Wellington thread, but I figured I'd post it here since it's applicable and respond here since it's appropriate.
This is a sentiment I don't understand at all. Damn Amazon for trying to make money? They're a business! They should be about the bottom dollar. And they've done nothing to hurt the forum participation. That one is all on us, IMO (see below).
As far as the shipping thing, I'm sure Amazon can ship things for less than I could. However, I can almost guarantee that even Amazon can't ship 4 bottles of wine across the country via 2-day air for $5.
We are still getting wines at the best price we can get anywhere. That is, in my book, a great deal. This may change, but at this point, it hasn't. The current offer, where this was posted, is $16.25 for a bottle of wine shipped to your door via 2-day air. And the quality of the wine is excellent. How is this not a great deal? It's more expensive than last time, likely because last time was a case. This is 4 bottles. It's the opposite of what some people have been complaining about -- fewer bottles and variation. But when offered, the minor price hike is complained about.
Lastly, the forum and community participation: I can't speak for anyone except for myself, but I wonder how many people are not participating due to the same complaints being made over and over again, overtaking any winery participation or germane wine talk. "Amazon is the devil!" "We want smaller offers! But we want them to be cheaper than the larger offers!" "And the cake -- we want that, too!" I know I'm being a bit hyperbolic here, but I don't think any more than a bit.
I just don't buy into this Amazon is hiking prices conspiracy because there is no evidence of it at all. In fact, one of the recent offers was cheaper per bottle, although one extra bottle, than the previous offer! And this time it was being shipped in the summer whereas last time, it wasn't.
I guess I'm just missing the big deal. The new design does suck, though.
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