I feel like we have had a rather wide range of offers, even with the new site, and the QPR hasn't changed much at all. Aged can offering associated with SH, low production Paso wine yesterday, Raised By Wolves which everyone said is great QPR, higher end wines like today's offer, Ty a while ago.

cjsiege wrote:How fortuitous that this is up on wine.woot today. A colleague and I recently shared this wine over dinner. My colleague(~D~) is relatively new to wine, and I’m a Rhone Ranger at heart. Let me pull together our consolidated tasting notes.

I had the bottle sitting open for about 30 minutes before we poured. We wrote tasting notes for “straight out of the bottle”, “one pass thru a vinturi”, and “with dinner”.


Based on our experience with the Vinturi, I think this wine is at peak. I would not hold it for the long run. Personally, I would consume it between now and Christmas (and it would probably work well with your Christmas roast).

Thanks for your input. It helps all of us with our decision. Bring back the lab rats!

Do we know yet if the box bounces at 10% left like the old oval did?

mschauber wrote:Do we know yet if the box bounces at 10% left like the old oval did?

I can't imagine it changed. But God, hope for a quick sellout so we all don't start seizing.

Symbolic2007 wrote:Which was the very first thing I did after browsing this new mess of a website.

Symbolic2007, don't you understand? The moderators are just suggesting that we post on the appropriate board so that the staff can conveniently get all of the information they need to make their decision in one place. I mean, it would be incredibly rude to create a situation where someone had to click through multiple pages to find relevant information in a confusing navigation situation...don't you think? Information could get lost and the user might not consider it all before just giving up on the situation! I mean, I wouldn't want that kind of inconvenience to be handed to anybody...but especially not the web designers responsible for this new lay-out, don't you agree?

What a great picture. Props to the camera guy. I live Syrah. Absolutely love it and WD and the shipping crews have made summer buying even better. I have too much Syrah right now, but if anyone in Albuquerque wants to sell off 1 bottle, I will take it.

Cyradia wrote: I mean, it would be incredibly rude to create a situation where someone had to click through multiple pages to find relevant information in a confusing navigation situation...don't you think? Information could get lost and the user might not consider it all before just giving up on the situation! I mean, I wouldn't want that kind of inconvenience to be handed to anybody...but especially not the web designers responsible for this new lay-out, don't you agree?

Rather like the TWENTY-THREE pages of "stuff you bought" I now have to click thru to find something that used to be on one page...

Symbolic2007 wrote:Just to stay on track with the wine though; way out of my wine budget and give us more sake! That I will pay $25/bottle for if it's good enough.

I've also noticed the jump in $/bottle lately, which explains my not having bought in awhile. None of the Woot-Pluses offer more than a 25% discount.

Question for fellow wine wooters: Am I the only one who automatically skips a wine "deal" if it's only 25% off?

If others feel as I do, then I'm not sure Woot did their customer research when developing Woot-Plus.

Cyradia wrote:Symbolic2007, don't you understand? The moderators are just suggesting that we post on the appropriate board so that the staff can conveniently get all of the information they need to make their decision in one place. I mean, it would be incredibly rude to create a situation where someone had to click through multiple pages to find relevant information in a confusing navigation situation...don't you think? Information could get lost and the user might not consider it all before just giving up on the situation! I mean, I wouldn't want that kind of inconvenience to be handed to anybody...but especially not the web designers responsible for this new lay-out, don't you agree?

Touche

jhrdy724 wrote:a little light google has shed on your issue:

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An even better rule of thumb is to match your wine to the sauce, not the meat. A cab will match well with a marinara chicken, for instance, and even a zin would go well with Cajun spiced catfish. 'Course if you hate whites and prefer reds, for instance, then drinking reds with everything is the way to go.

nfurlong wrote:I've also noticed the jump in $/bottle lately, which explains my not having bought in awhile. None of the Woot-Pluses offer more than a 25% discount.

Question for fellow wine wooters: Am I the only one who automatically skips a wine "deal" if it's only 25% off?

If others feel as I do, then I'm not sure Woot did their customer research when developing Woot-Plus.

I wouldn't say it's a hard and fast rule, but in general, I agree. Since for the most part winery pricing is extremely high to begin with, to get into the reasonably priced realm, they have to take 30%+ off. While I don't like the woot plus stuff as a concept since it's nothing more than a way for woot/amazon to get their hands on extra dough, the least they could do is still offer half decent discounts off retail.

As for daily deals, you're not catching my attention unless I see a minimum of 40% off and 50% is really where I think the sweet spot starts. And while I have bought plenty of deals at less than 30-40%, it's been the community discussion and vintner participation that have sold me. Something that has seriously decreased with this new site design.

nfurlong wrote:I've also noticed the jump in $/bottle lately, which explains my not having bought in awhile. None of the Woot-Pluses offer more than a 25% discount.

Question for fellow wine wooters: Am I the only one who automatically skips a wine "deal" if it's only 25% off?

If others feel as I do, then I'm not sure Woot did their customer research when developing Woot-Plus.

You have to look at woot plus like this (for wine), because that is basically what it is: It is wine club pricing at Woot shipping prices. While I would absolutely love to see to 40% discount in Woot Plus deals, it won't happen often. I look at it as additional access to winery offerings which won't get listed as daily deals due to no profit for the winery or just not enough quantity. It also gives us the opportunity to purchase at basically the wineries club pricing, while only paying woot's shipping price and without having to commit to a full-year of an actual club membership. With that being said, I won't be "taking chances" on unknown wines/wineries on Woot Plus deals because the deep discounts just aren't there. I will only buy what I know.

I would feel bad about derailing the conversation once again, but I don't see any winery reps around answering questions so I don't really feel bad.

North316 wrote:You have to look at woot plus like this (for wine), because that is basically what it is: It is wine club pricing at Woot shipping prices. While I would absolutely love to see to 40% discount in Woot Plus deals, it won't happen often. I look at it as additional access to winery offerings which won't get listed as daily deals due to no profit for the winery or just not enough quantity. It also gives us the opportunity to purchase at basically the wineries club pricing, while only paying woot's shipping price and without having to commit to a full-year of an actual club membership. With that being said, I won't be "taking chances" on unknown wines/wineries on Woot Plus deals because the deep discounts just aren't there. I will only buy what I know.

I would feel bad about derailing the conversation once again, but I don't see any winery reps around answering questions so I don't really feel bad.

A couple of things:

2007 was an AWESOME year throughout CA for nearly every category of wine - period! Most wines are long lived, and I would think that this one will be as well. I noted in Cellartracker that not only did Richard Jennings rate it, but that the Rhone Report did as well - and I really dig what Jeb Dunnuck has to say about all things rhone . . .

As far as 'discounts' go, if you're looking for 40% off and higher on woot+ deals, you will probably end up getting only 'close outs' as opposed to current offerings. I can tell you first hand that many wineries simply cannot make much money with a discount like that (when you get that kind of discount, please remember that not all the proceeds go directly to the winery!!!). Each winery needs to pay for shipping of our wines to wine.woot's warehouse so that they can consolidate stuff. And not all of us price our wines that high to start with (-:

Just another data point in the discussion . . .

Cheers!

tercerowines wrote:A couple of things:

2007 was an AWESOME year throughout CA for nearly every category of wine - period! Most wines are long lived, and I would think that this one will be as well. I noted in Cellartracker that not only did Richard Jennings rate it, but that the Rhone Report did as well - and I really dig what Jeb Dunnuck has to say about all things rhone . . .

As far as 'discounts' go, if you're looking for 40% off and higher on woot+ deals, you will probably end up getting only 'close outs' as opposed to current offerings. I can tell you first hand that many wineries simply cannot make much money with a discount like that (when you get that kind of discount, please remember that not all the proceeds go directly to the winery!!!). Each winery needs to pay for shipping of our wines to wine.woot's warehouse so that they can consolidate stuff. And not all of us price our wines that high to start with (-:

Just another data point in the discussion . . .

Cheers!

Appreciate a little info on the behinds the scenes process. Seems to me that if the winery isn't close enough for face to face delivery from winery to Wine Country, that if the winery were to ship to the customer themselves, not only would shipping be faster, but total shipping costs would be reduced because it's now direct from winery instead of winery to Wine Country then to customer. In addition, total labor hours would be reduced because instead of the winery packaging and shipping once and THEN Wine Country unpacking, packaging, and shipping a 2nd round, the later could be eliminated.

Now I realized that causes a problem for Wine Country because they wouldn't get their cut, but from a price, profit, and consumer point of view, it seems to make a lot of sense. Of course Wine Country could still provide some logistical services, for which they could get paid.

While not a comment on today's wine.......

I love this place, but am really getting bummed out. I haven't hit the button too many times but I read this blog on an ongoing basis. I rave to other wine friends about Woot, and many have joined the ranks. I love the deals, but love you guys even more. If you leave guys Woot, can I come with you? Where willyou go?

Something about this offer kept drawing me in, so I pulled the trigger.

Last wooter to woot:mschauber
Last purchase:12 minutes ago

Symbolic2007 wrote:As for today's grape deal, I feel it's absolutely ludicrous to ask that kind of money for a spilled bottle of wine.

I'm no forensics expert, but that looks way too viscous for wine. It looks more like (gasp) blood! :-) Seriously, did they use paint for the pic? It was very well done, whatever they used.

nfurlong wrote:I'm no forensics expert, but that looks way too viscous for wine. It looks more like (gasp) blood! :-) Seriously, did they use paint for the pic? It was very well done, whatever they used.

Corn syrup... Looks like blood and can flavor your ice cream at the same time ;)

nfurlong wrote:I'm no forensics expert, but that looks way too viscous for wine. It looks more like (gasp) blood! :-) Seriously, did they use paint for the pic? It was very well done, whatever they used.

They didn't want to waste the precious wine! Smart photographer.

mschauber wrote:Appreciate a little info on the behinds the scenes process. Seems to me that if the winery isn't close enough for face to face delivery from winery to Wine Country, that if the winery were to ship to the customer themselves, not only would shipping be faster, but total shipping costs would be reduced because it's now direct from winery instead of winery to Wine Country then to customer. In addition, total labor hours would be reduced because instead of the winery packaging and shipping once and THEN Wine Country unpacking, packaging, and shipping a 2nd round, the later could be eliminated.

Now I realized that causes a problem for Wine Country because they wouldn't get their cut, but from a price, profit, and consumer point of view, it seems to make a lot of sense. Of course Wine Country could still provide some logistical services, for which they could get paid.

I simply cannot compete with the prices that wine.woot offers for shipping costs - no how, no way. They are able to cut costs waaay down based on volume - something I just can't do with my little ole wine label .. .

Cheers!

tercerowines wrote:I simply cannot compete with the prices that wine.woot offers for shipping costs - no how, no way. They are able to cut costs waaay down based on volume - something I just can't do with my little ole wine label .. .

I hope this means we get a Tercero WootPlus boutique soonish. I've really been enjoying the last Tercero Woot offer. Can't wait to visit the tasting room.

I will be happy to pay full price for Tercero wines if I can get Woot shipping