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Black Zeppelin

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Last Wooter to Woot:
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Last Purchase:
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Cesare


quality posts: 1695 Private Messages Cesare

2009 Black Zeppelin 2-Pack
$51.99 (Normally $100.00) 48% off List Price
2 2009 Black Zeppelin Central Coast
CT link above

Winery website

-il Cesare
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“In the entire world there are only a few sounds that bring joy to all but the most jaded. One is the murmur of a kitten purring. Another is the thwack of a well-pitched baseball hitting a perfectly swung bat. And the third is the pop of a cork being pulled from a bottle of wine.” —George Taber

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown

Still stumbling around the beta - I want to hear the vintners voicemail I left, after tasting assorted wines all weekend (blind). I believe I did allege that this wine is more like the 05 Black Zeppelin (Syrah, Alicante Bouschet) than it is like the Monterey Petite Sirah BZs.

cortot20


quality posts: 161 Private Messages cortot20
stillmanbrown wrote:Still stumbling around the beta - I want to hear the vintners voicemail I left, after tasting assorted wines all weekend (blind). I believe I did allege that this wine is more like the 05 Black Zeppelin (Syrah, Alicante Bouschet) than it is like the Monterey Petite Sirah BZs.



Love zeppelin wines.
But the rack is full and the BIWBM is on. This is really hard to pass up though. I thought the 05 BZ was awesome and I remember it was predominately syrah. Stillman could you compare the two wines. ( know they are completely different)

CT

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown

They're both more concentrated, and more structured (tannic) than the pure Petite Sirahs. The 05 had more Alicante in it, and higher alcohol, this 09 CC blend is more complex. The Paso components make a big difference.

teebodo


quality posts: 4 Private Messages teebodo
stillmanbrown wrote:They're both more concentrated, and more structured (tannic) than the pure Petite Sirahs. The 05 had more Alicante in it, and higher alcohol, this 09 CC blend is more complex. The Paso components make a big difference.



Stillman, didn't see any notes on your site for this one so have to ask: drinking window? I might have to buy and hold...


stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
teebodo wrote:Stillman, didn't see any notes on your site for this one so have to ask: drinking window? I might have to buy and hold...



Now til 2020, with adjustments in decanting or cuisine made. If I only had two bottles, I'd open one next year and the other in 4 or 5 years. Like I hold libraries :-/

cortot20


quality posts: 161 Private Messages cortot20

Did anyone get a bottle to faux rat? Looking at you sparky!


Edit: where's the classy monkey?

CT

hillig


quality posts: 10 Private Messages hillig

Absolutely loved the 2009 Hames Valley (hell I bought a half case from you post Woot). Am I correct to assume this is more tannic, structured, and will age longer due to the higher Syrah content?

Also, where in Paso is the vineyard? I have a few Templeton Gap wines that I absolutely love (Epoch).

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
hillig wrote:Absolutely loved the 2009 Hames Valley (hell I bought a half case from you post Woot). Am I correct to assume this is more tannic, structured, and will age longer due to the higher Syrah content?

Also, where in Paso is the vineyard? I have a few Templeton Gap wines that I absolutely love (Epoch).



Correct. The Syrah vineyard's actually out in Creston, but only yielded one ton/acre in 09, serious punch but not as lush as the Colossus. The Paso petite in this wine is also bigger and a bit more naturally tannic than the Hames Valley PS.

MarkDaSpark


quality posts: 187 Private Messages MarkDaSpark
cortot20 wrote:Did anyone get a bottle to faux rat? Looking at you sparky!


Edit: where's the classy monkey?




Not this time, and while I was in Paso this weekend, didn't have time to swing over to say "Hi!" to Stillman.


Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me!
*This post is for purposes of enabling only, and does not constitute any promise of helping pay for said enabling. It does indicate willingness to assist in drinking said wine.

MarkDaSpark


quality posts: 187 Private Messages MarkDaSpark



Courtesy of CJ:

cjsiege wrote:Upcoming Woot Wine Gatherings…All The News for the week of June 3rd.

June
6/9: SoCal #19 @ Sparky's Wine Lockers
6/16: NoVA/DC #26: Picnic By The Pool
6/23: Denver Gathering #4?!
TBD: NYC #20 Interest Thread

July
7/23-25: RPM's History Tour, Part 1
7/25-29: RPM's History Tour, Part 2

(Dates set. There is room on both tours for more people!)

Pending
TBD: NorCal #12: Volcanic Terroir and/or Eastern European Finds
TBD: Arizona Verde Valley Winery Weekend
TBD: Dallas #11


No events in your area??? Start one! Create an interest thread in the World of Wine Woot Community Tab!




So join or create a WW Gathering!


Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me!
*This post is for purposes of enabling only, and does not constitute any promise of helping pay for said enabling. It does indicate willingness to assist in drinking said wine.

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown

Allow me a few hours of sleep before I resume answering questions, please? I judged a big wine competition in southern California this weekend, and what with the driving, carousing, and couch surfing I'm, well, tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk. I'll be back!

bsevern


quality posts: 110 Private Messages bsevern

Dang, wasn't expecting this!

What's shakin' Stillman?

I've yet to crack open a bottle of the Colossus, but how would you compare this to the Colossus?

baristaboss58


quality posts: 4 Private Messages baristaboss58

Could someone please explain the Alicante Bouschet? How does this contribute to the wine? This is something that I have not experienced, but sounds very interesting.Thanks.

What a way to start the week!
Thanks Stillman and WW :-)

hiten900


quality posts: 10 Private Messages hiten900

I consumed the last of the carefully hoarded Red Zeppelin this weekend. Resisting the urge as I am saving up for a major expense on the house....

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
bsevern wrote:Dang, wasn't expecting this!

What's shakin' Stillman?

I've yet to crack open a bottle of the Colossus, but how would you compare this to the Colossus?



(blinking, groggy) It's shorter?
Hmmm, the Colossus is softer and 'sweeter' (not implying sugar, but lower tannin). This is more like the 05 Black Zeppelin.

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
baristaboss58 wrote:Could someone please explain the Alicante Bouschet? How does this contribute to the wine? This is something that I have not experienced, but sounds very interesting.Thanks.

What a way to start the week!
Thanks Stillman and WW :-)



Alicante Bouschet is one of the few Vinifera tenturier grapes, that is to say it's of the same species as other classic wine grapes but has red flesh and juice, not just color from the skins. It was made by crossing Grenache with Petit Bouschet, itself a cross of Aramon and a (non-vinifera) tenturier. (Kind of like being my being 25% Polish makes me musical.) In practice it's sort of a turbocharged Grenache, with extra 'meaty' elements in it. If you're into punk rock, you could call it a Turbonegro charged Grenache. I just grafted some more vines over to this mysterious and useful varietal, but most of it will go into the Colossus starting in 2013 . . . .

outdoorslife


quality posts: 8 Private Messages outdoorslife
baristaboss58 wrote:Could someone please explain the Alicante Bouschet? How does this contribute to the wine? This is something that I have not experienced, but sounds very interesting.Thanks.

What a way to start the week!
Thanks Stillman and WW :-)




The grape is one of a few that have a red flesh. Most other grapes have a white flesh so one has to press the grapes and macerate the skins with the juice to impart color.
With Alicante Bouschet (cross between Petit Bouschet and Grenache btw) you can color quickly from the pressing without having to macerate. The grape does have higher tannins so that needs to be considered when making a wine with this grape.

Another name you might have heard it by might be Tinto Nero or Garnacha Tintorera.

edit: Stillman beat me to the post by a few seconds or so… Looks like we were typing at the same time. heh.

flyguytnhhi


quality posts: 0 Private Messages flyguytnhhi

If this is anything like the 2005 no one should buy any and leave it all for me! The 2005 BZ is my all time favorite wine! Great depth, balance and alcohol !!! I haven't tried this because Stillman didn't tell me about it when I emailed him a few weeks back but Im in for 3 and will probably keep buying direct until its all gone!!
@LandRoverNut

guantanamodre


quality posts: 0 Private Messages guantanamodre

There's a small Winery in the finger lakes region of New York calleed Fulkerson that makes a sweeter, very fruity wine called "Red Zeppelin" very tastey should check em out. www.fulkersonwinery.com

outdoorslife


quality posts: 8 Private Messages outdoorslife

Definitely in for one, time to open some of the other bottles and see how it all tastes.

I get enough of these and can have a really fun tasting with friends!

cortot20


quality posts: 161 Private Messages cortot20
baristaboss58 wrote:Could someone please explain the Alicante Bouschet? How does this contribute to the wine? This is something that I have not experienced, but sounds very interesting.Thanks.

What a way to start the week!
Thanks Stillman and WW :-)



If your really curious about alicante then try wellingtons noir de noirs. It's not 100% but it's close.

CT

slm9951


quality posts: 14 Private Messages slm9951

Can this wine be drunk now with aeration or decanting, or must it be kept awhile?

robertullman


quality posts: 0 Private Messages robertullman

Speed to First Woot: 10m 49.992s First Sucker:jackiecanev2 Last Wooter to Woot:robertullman

well after a long long long time looking at the deals and perusing the boards I jumped in for this one based on the drooling people seem to have for Stillman.

baristaboss58


quality posts: 4 Private Messages baristaboss58
stillmanbrown wrote:Alicante Bouschet is one of the few Vinifera tenturier grapes, that is to say it's of the same species as other classic wine grapes but has red flesh and juice, not just color from the skins. It was made by crossing Grenache with Petit Bouschet, itself a cross of Aramon and a (non-vinifera) tenturier. (Kind of like being my being 25% Polish makes me musical.) In practice it's sort of a turbocharged Grenache, with extra 'meaty' elements in it. If you're into punk rock, you could call it a Turbonegro charged Grenache. I just grafted some more vines over to this mysterious and useful varietal, but most of it will go into the Colossus starting in 2013 . . . .



Thank you Stillman, great analogy. You explain very well to all levels of wine enthusiasts. Let me know if you ever travel to Ohio for a wine tour/tasting, would really enjoy hearing you speak.
I am going to bet the 2013 Colossus is going to break some records for you and also win you a great deal of awards....can't wait for that one, have not tried the Colossus...
Again thanks, and cheers Stillman

S

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
guantanamodre wrote:There's a small Winery in the finger lakes region of New York calleed Fulkerson that makes a sweeter, very fruity wine called "Red Zeppelin" very tastey should check em out. www.fulkersonwinery.com



It's very sweet, and it's not Vinifera . . . definitely not for everyone. They claim they came up with the name spontaneously, just a couple of years after my wine was first released and all over the Wine Spectator, MTV etc etc. I let them sell it in NY, but it's my trademark.

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
baristaboss58 wrote:Thank you Stillman, great analogy. You explain very well to all levels of wine enthusiasts. Let me know if you ever travel to Ohio for a wine tour/tasting, would really enjoy hearing you speak.
I am going to bet the 2013 Colossus is going to break some records for you and also win you a great deal of awards....can't wait for that one, have not tried the Colossus...
Again thanks, and cheers Stillman

S



My friend the wonderful wine cog keeps trying to get me to go to Ohio, but I don't do distributors. Besides, it's a big state! (The 2011 Colossus is one ton/acre but of course it's still in barrel.)

cortot20


quality posts: 161 Private Messages cortot20

Stillman your three separate BZ labels for 2009 is confusing. Next year please release the PS Zep's under your other label Deep Purple Zepplin so that we can better discern which is which.

CT

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
robertullman wrote:Speed to First Woot: 10m 49.992s First Sucker:jackiecanev2 Last Wooter to Woot:robertullman

well after a long long long time looking at the deals and perusing the boards I jumped in for this one based on the drooling people seem to have for Stillman.



Thanks. Virtual drooling, right?
One of my friends was doing a show at our local dive bar - blasting punk rock, singing and playing guitar, and kept at it full speed ahead while an entire pitcher of beer was poured, moderately slowly, over his head.
I'd do that with wine, but not drool. And if you heard me sing you might use syrup.

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
cortot20 wrote:Still an your three separate BZ labels for 2009 is confusing. Next year please release the PS Zep's under your other label Deep Purple Zepplin so that we can better discern which is which.



I know, but at least I color coded them. My friend Rudy, lead guitarist of Meth Leppard, named his newborn son Vitus Blackmore Castellanos. Is that awesome or what?

baristaboss58


quality posts: 4 Private Messages baristaboss58

[quote postid="5030029" user="outdoorslife"]The grape is one of a few that have a red flesh. Most other grapes have a white flesh so one has to press the grapes and macerate the skins with the juice to impart color.
With Alicante Bouschet (cross bet ween Petit Bouschet and Grenache btw) you can color quickly from the pressing without having to macerate. The grape does have higher tannins so that needs to be considered when making a wine with this grape.

Another name you might have heard it by might be Tinto Nero or Garnacha Tintorera.

edit: Stillman beat me to the post by a few seconds or so… Looks like we were typing at the same time. heh.[/quote

First , thanks. Second, just think that it's "great minds think on the same track" .
Hey, I'm definitely not quick at typing. I have to use a stylus with my pad.
Looking forward to enjoying this wine.
Cheers...happy Monday.

Just one more...
Not to sound cartoonish, but would I be correct in saying this grape gives the "Pow" factor?

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
slm9951 wrote:Can this wine be drunk now with aeration or decanting, or must it be kept awhile?



I'm pouring it in the tasting room, and I prefer it an hour after opening, or a day (cork in overnight, no gas). So, yes. If I only had one bottle ever, I would hold for a few years - but since the minimum purchase is two you don't have that dilemma!

Raid


quality posts: 2 Private Messages Raid

100% AGREE

flyguytnhhi wrote:If this is anything like the 2005 no one should buy any and leave it all for me! The 2005 BZ is my all time favorite wine! Great depth, balance and alcohol !!! I haven't tried this because Stillman didn't tell me about it when I emailed him a few weeks back but Im in for 3 and will probably keep buying direct until its all gone!!
@LandRoverNut



stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown
baristaboss58 wrote:[quote postid="5030029" user="outdoorslife"]The grape is one of a few that have a red flesh. Most other grapes have a white flesh so one has to press the grapes and macerate the skins with the juice to impart color.
With Alicante Bouschet (cross bet ween Petit Bouschet and Grenache btw) you can color quickly from the pressing without having to macerate. The grape does have higher tannins so that needs to be considered when making a wine with this grape.

Another name you might have heard it by might be Tinto Nero or Garnacha Tintorera.

edit: Stillman beat me to the post by a few seconds or so… Looks like we were typing at the same time. heh.[/quote

First , thanks. Second, just think that it's "great minds think on the same track" .
Hey, I'm definitely not quick at typing. I have to use a stylus with my pad.
Looking forward to enjoying this wine.
Cheers...happy Monday.

Just one more...
Not to sound cartoonish, but would I be correct in saying this grape gives the "Pow" factor?



There's not really enough of it in this wine to make a difference, though I've more on the way. I view it as a spice - the color doesn't matter to me - and as one of the very few varietals that's compatible with low yield Syrah in a blend.

baristaboss58


quality posts: 4 Private Messages baristaboss58
cortot20 wrote:If your really curious about alicante then try wellingtons noir de noirs. It's not 100% but it's close.



Thank you.
Another to the list!
I so appreciate this forum and people like you. I'm a sponge and am soaking it in as fast as I can...oh yes, let's not forget the wine..:-)

baristaboss58


quality posts: 4 Private Messages baristaboss58
stillmanbrown wrote:There's not really enough of it in this wine to make a difference, though I've more on the way. I view it as a spice - the color doesn't matter to me - and as one of the very few varietals that's compatible with low yield Syrah in a blend.



Thanks for the specifics...makes sense.

I can talk about coffee like you do you're wine. That's why I appreciate you're feedback, and you're obvious passion for what you love.



dalematthew


quality posts: 24 Private Messages dalematthew
stillmanbrown wrote:Now til 2020, with adjustments in decanting or cuisine made. If I only had two bottles, I'd open one next year and the other in 4 or 5 years. Like I hold libraries :-/



Advice taken and in for one.

Separate topic - I couldn't find any discussion on the woot plus deals in the world of wine area - is it just too early in the morning and i can't find it? With it being twisted oak and iron house - sounds like my first opportunity to do some damage with the all day $5 shipping!

stillmanbrown


quality posts: 141 Private Messages stillmanbrown

I thought I left a fairly decent Vintner's Voicemail, but I can't find it anywhere . . .

inkycatz


quality posts: 105 Private Messages inkycatz
stillmanbrown wrote:I thought I left a fairly decent Vintner's Voicemail, but I can't find it anywhere . . .



We'll look into that for you.

I'm just hanging out, really.