When's the Pinot Noir coming to Woot??

In for 1. The wife drinks nothing but Riesling.

This is a very hard one to pass up, but unfortunately I think I am going to have to. The last week has been a very expense one (woot-off plus woot event). I am officially out of space until I can drink some wine and simply have no room for a case of drink now wine, even though this is exactly the type of wine we drink!

Eastcoastmary wrote:can you really buy 3 cases of this? I thought 1 case was the limit.

It is. Its really a case inside a case inside a case.....

Wineception.

asmith69 wrote:would love to split a case with someone in the akron/kent, oh area

I live in Brunswick (Medina County). I'll split a case with you and we can meet somewhere between A/K and Bruns. Let me know soon. If I don't hear from you by noon, I'll order my own. Thanks.

The tech numbers support what Dan is saying:
22 g/L RS, 8 g/L TA, pH 3.0 -> Medium Sweet on the International Riesling Federation taste scale. In Germany this would probably not have a taste label, though it could carry the label "lieblich" (lovely), the equivalent of medium sweet.

I have not tasted this wine, but I agree with Dan - it should taste like a German or Alsatian Spätlese or Auslese with a nice crisp mouthfeel due to the decent acidity and low pH.

I am not too worried about the age, of course the devil is always in the detail - how the wine was stored, how it was made (I think we can trust Dan), etc. People report it drinking well now, so

...at this price point, if you are a sweeter Riesling fan, go for it - this one looks great to me!!!

...and I have drunk a lot of riesling

Having a hard time deciding, it looks too good to pass up

Anyone around STL want to split this?

asmith69 wrote:would love to split a case with someone in the akron/kent, oh area

I'd definitely be down for a split but I'm in Cleveland, send me a PM and we can try to figure something out! (Or the person from Brunswick, which would actually be closer)

zenophile wrote:That's my favourite breakfast place in Vegas. Finest quiche you'll find , lovely environment, sunny.

How biting is the acid, and how sweet is medium sweet.. Does the acid balance it like in a good German Riesling , or perhaps Alsacien ?

The acid isn't biting and is all natural. It's not as sweet as most Auslese.

ThunderThighs wrote:Ohhhhh, good catch. It was supposed to limited to one case. That's been fixed now.

If you went on a spending spree and ordered more than one case, expect an email from customer service lowing your order to one case.

Thanks!

Are you sure about that? I just read a previous posting from woot that the limit was three per order and multiple orders are ok too.

liverman wrote:The tech numbers support what Dan is saying:
22 g/L RS, 8 g/L TA, pH 3.0 -> Medium Sweet on the International Riesling Federation taste scale. In Germany this would probably not have a taste label, though it could carry the label "lieblich" (lovely), the equivalent of medium sweet.

I have not tasted this wine, but I agree with Dan - it should taste like a German or Alsatian Spätlese or Auslese with a nice crisp mouthfeel due to the decent acidity and low pH.

I am not too worried about the age, of course the devil is always in the detail - how the wine was stored, how it was made (I think we can trust Dan), etc. People report it drinking well now, so

...at this price point, if you are a sweeter Riesling fan, go for it - this one looks great to me!!!

...and I have drunk a lot of riesling

Thanks for the comment. The wine was stored at a temp controlled facility that is maintained at 55 to 58 degrees.

flolene wrote:Having a hard time deciding, it looks too good to pass up

Hi Flolene, go for it This deal won't come around again. The woot price per bottle is significantly less than what Thomas Keller at Bouchon in Las Vegas was paying to pour it by-the-glass. Cheers! Dan

Just for reference, I probably would've pushed the button on an offer that was $45 (shipped) for 4 bottles or $60 (shipped) for 6 bottles. I just don't know what I'd do with a whole case. I can't pawn that many bottles off on my co-workers...

michaepf wrote:Just for reference, I probably would've pushed the button on an offer that was $45 (shipped) for 4 bottles or $60 (shipped) for 6 bottles. I just don't know what I'd do with a whole case. I can't pawn that many bottles off on my co-workers...

At this price it's a wine you could open every day. Gifts at Thanksgiving and Christmas? I always take a bottle or two of something to parties ;)

michaepf wrote:Just for reference, I probably would've pushed the button on an offer that was $45 (shipped) for 4 bottles or $60 (shipped) for 6 bottles. I just don't know what I'd do with a whole case. I can't pawn that many bottles off on my co-workers...

This is MY problem, as well. It feels silly to complain about too much of a good thing, but I just can't deal with a case. Oh well, more for others, I guess.

Riesling is a great wine for sipping in the evening, or any time, and it's good with all kinds of food.

I don't understand the comments about this wine being at the end of its drinking window, or from a 'warm region' - it's neither. Outstanding wine, have had it several times in the last year.

michaepf wrote:Just for reference, I probably would've pushed the button on an offer that was $45 (shipped) for 4 bottles or $60 (shipped) for 6 bottles. I just don't know what I'd do with a whole case. I can't pawn that many bottles off on my co-workers...

I'm going to try to force-pawn at least 6 bottles from my case

stillmanbrown wrote:I don't understand the comments about this wine being at the end of its drinking window, or from a 'warm region' - it's neither. Outstanding wine, have had it several times in the last year.

I agree. "aged" riesling to me has at least 10 years under it's belt and more like 20.

Coming right from the temperature controlled mothership, this looks like a great buy.

Anyone in NYC want to split a case?

stillmanbrown wrote:I don't understand the comments about this wine being at the end of its drinking window, or from a 'warm region' - it's neither. Outstanding wine, have had it several times in the last year.

Swilly, several times? Those are just the times you remember. We probably drank 10 gallons each of this wine last year ;)

stillmanbrown wrote:I don't understand the comments about this wine being at the end of its drinking window, or from a 'warm region' - it's neither. Outstanding wine, have had it several times in the last year.

To be fair, while Dan did say it would probably be fine to drink within 2-3 years, he also said he would drink it by Thanksgiving. Drinking a case of one wine in 7 months can be task for a lot of people, especially when they probably have just as many other wines with the same drinking window.

I would love to split a case with someone in the Cape Girardeau area. Let me know ASAP
Thanks

dantudor@tudorwines.com wrote:Are you sure about that? I just read a previous posting from woot that the limit was three per order and multiple orders are ok too.

When it comes to wine, one case is the limit (at least according to my sources!). However, a customer can place 2 orders per day - a personal order and a gift order from the same account as long as the ship-to address is different and gift is selected on one order.

North316 wrote:To be fair, while Dan did say it would probably be fine to drink within 2-3 years, he also said he would drink it by Thanksgiving. Drinking a case of one wine in 7 months can be task for a lot of people, especially when they probably have just as many other wines with the same drinking window.

As for the age-ability, we'll save 20 cases of this wine to drink over the next 5 to 7 years. The 2005 Radog SLH Riesling was very similar and it's fantastic right now. I love the classic petrol that develops from this quite cool/dry region of Monterey.

inkycatz wrote:When it comes to wine, one case is the limit (at least according to my sources!). However, a customer can place 2 orders per day - a personal order and a gift order from the same account as long as the ship-to address is different and gift is selected on one order.

I just received a message on this limit issue. It's a limit per order, but there's no limit on number of orders. The system is set to charge just $5 per order for shipping is why.

mkottman08 wrote:I'd definitely be down for a split but I'm in Cleveland, send me a PM and we can try to figure something out! (Or the person from Brunswick, which would actually be closer)

I'm going in for 1 right now. Since I've recently found WW, my wine buying has outpaced my drinking. If you're still looking for a split, I'm about 20 minutes NE of Cleveland. If not, I've got a friend that should be able to help with the wine drinking part!

dantudor@tudorwines.com wrote:As for the age-ability, we'll save 20 cases of this wine to drink over the next 5 to 7 years. The 2005 Radog SLH Riesling was very similar and it's fantastic right now. I love the classic petrol that develops from this quite cool/dry region of Monterey.

I've heard about the 'classic petrol' you mention, but I think not had a Riesling aged to that point. Thinking back to my younger days, when I was low on funds and 'borrowed' fuel, Petrol just does not sound like something appealing. Where and why is there allure for something so seemingly noxious?

Already in for the case...
and want to make sure it's consumed prior to petrol, I think. Yes, I've read the wiki.

Hello community. I’m relatively new to the world of wine. Wine first captured my attention when living abroad in Germany. I tried and enjoyed lots of German Riesling so hopefully I have high expectations. I was hoping someone could explain a little more about the aging of wine. From some of the quick, light research on wiki I learned that Riesling has a potential to be aged for 5 – 30+ years because of its acidity. The level of sweetness also adds to its longevity. This particular vintage was described as being able to be aged for a “few” more years. When I think of a few I think of 3 – 5. That would give it an age of 5 – 10 years. Some of my questions are why is the drinking window so short compared to other Rieslings? What is the range of acid and sugar levels for all wines (norm minimum to maximum)? Thanks.

Shannoboo wrote:Anyone around STL want to split this?

Hello, I live in Chesterfield. I will gladly split it with you.

mrileyatwoot wrote:The answer to the first question is yes, you can place a gift order and a separate personal order. For the second one, since the two orders would be considered different orders, you would have the 3 unit quantity limitation on each order, not on the combined orders.

Nice. That's good to know. Thank you.

rjquillin wrote:I've heard about the 'classic petrol' you mention, but I think not had a Riesling aged to that point. Thinking back to my younger days, when I was low on funds and 'borrowed' fuel, Petrol just does not sound like something appealing. Where and why is there allure for something so seemingly noxious?

Already in for the case...
and want to make sure it's consumed prior to petrol, I think. Yes, I've read the wiki.

I personally guarantee you will really like, if not love, this wine.

asmith69 wrote:would love to split a case with someone in the akron/kent, oh area

boatman72 wrote:I live in Brunswick (Medina County). I'll split a case with you and we can meet somewhere between A/K and Bruns. Let me know soon. If I don't hear from you by noon, I'll order my own. Thanks.

mkottman08 wrote:I'd definitely be down for a split but I'm in Cleveland, send me a PM and we can try to figure something out! (Or the person from Brunswick, which would actually be closer)

aray35 wrote:I'm going in for 1 right now. Since I've recently found WW, my wine buying has outpaced my drinking. If you're still looking for a split, I'm about 20 minutes NE of Cleveland. If not, I've got a friend that should be able to help with the wine drinking part!

OK, where were all you locals for the past 4 months while we were advertising the Wooster Winemaker's Dinner with Scott & Jana Harvey?

J/K.... I know Boatman wanted to come but was unable to. You all missed a really fun and educational experience. Enlightening, even! I expect (hope) that Scott & Jana will probably be back again next year as this was their third time at the Wooster Inn and it was a great success, so if you want to read about it for future reference see HERE.

I will be adding my take on the event shortly as I'm sure the others who were in attendance will also do so you may want to keep an eye on the thread for a few days to get a full report.

Anyway, I went in on the Radog Riesling and am willing to share. I'm halfway between Cleveland and Akron so send me a PM if you want some. I'm willing to part with up to 9 bottles but will be giving first dibs to laguar1 and North316 if they're interested.

paddedrm wrote:Hello community. I’m relatively new to the world of wine. Wine first captured my attention when living abroad in Germany. I tried and enjoyed lots of German Riesling so hopefully I have high expectations. I was hoping someone could explain a little more about the aging of wine. From some of the quick, light research on wiki I learned that Riesling has a potential to be aged for 5 – 30+ years because of its acidity. The level of sweetness also adds to its longevity. This particular vintage was described as being able to be aged for a “few” more years. When I think of a few I think of 3 – 5. That would give it an age of 5 – 10 years. Some of my questions are why is the drinking window so short compared to other Rieslings? What is the range of acid and sugar levels for all wines (norm minimum to maximum)? Thanks.

Yes, that's correct. The acid, low pH, massive fruit, and RS makes Riesling one of the most age-able wines. The sweeter Auslese types seem to age longer because of the sugar. Germans tend to have lower alcohol because they are ripening with lower sugar levels, although that is changing with the warming they are experiencing. Alcohol adds a certain amount of sweetness itself and makes the wine a bit fatter. So the key is balance between the acid, alcohol, fruit and RS. In the Santa Lucia Highlands we have a Very long cool and dry season. Riesling is a late ripening varietal so in the SLH we have to wait patiently for the acid to drop, but the flavors continue to develop during the time. Our Rieslings end up being harvested in late October and November.

Advice needed:

I have a wedding coming up in California (Monterey) and was going to go with 3 cases of chardonnay and 2 cases of Sauvignon Blanc for the whites. Buttery cal chard for those who like it, and something drier for those that don't.

Would this make a decent substitute for the sauv?

dantudor@tudorwines.com wrote:I personally guarantee you will really like, if not love, this wine.

Well, I was already in, but still wishing to learn a bit of the allure of this Petrol thing and hoping you could comment further.

I did find this link that seems to address the topic quite well, not only from terrior and production aspects, but also wrt to closure types and how they affect TDN levels. For me, a very educational read on the technical aspects.

It appears you did not use screw closure, but is it natural or synthetic cork.

From the link above
Interestingly, according to tests conducted by AWRI, natural cork closures absorb as much as 50% of the TDN found in any wine, while Altec and "One + One" technical corks can remove as much as 70%, and the most absorptive synthetic closures no less than 98%! Screwcaps actually preserve TDN

Anyone in the Minneapolis area looking to split? I'd love to have some of this, but a case? I'll keep my eyes peeled for takers. If not, drat! I may just have to bite anyway. So tempting.