tytiger58 wrote:These kind of attacks started long before Obama and maybe you should not paint a picture with such broad strokes IMHO, I imagine you paint this picture from random articles you read on Fox news/MSNBC or some other far left/right publication or posts? Based on that logic should conservatives believe that liberals are bunch of radical godless socialists? I choose not to perpetuate these attacks and I am sorry but I expect more from the highly educated forward thinking group that currently holds power. I can only hope that some group in the future will someday forget all this mud slinging and decide to work together...This is just my uneducated opinion and I hope I have not uninvited myself from from a dinner that i'm looking forward too.
No no no...don't worry about that. Going to take more than a little political banter to do something like that...what do you take me for?
I tried to indicate I was using some sort of "other" definition of "conservative" by putting it in editorial quotes. I don't really know what a conservative is any more, to be honest. I'm a raging conservative back in the great white north but here I waffle between the two parties. So I was not suggesting that one is always right and the other always wrong.
I think in the present shutdown situation, the GOP is almost entirely at fault, but hey, what do I know? It's also not worth fighting about.
Yes, I did not mean to suggest the approach of "the other guy said it and therefore I disagree" was anything new. What seems to be new, though, is the hyperbole attached to everything. Like the article I posted in the Pub, comparisons to Nazis, 9/11, terrorists, slavery, etc. I could easily be wrong, but it seems new to me. And both sides are guilty, although again right now it seems that the GOP is a bit more guilty than the Dems. Could easily be biased news viewing on my part, though.
I'm also thinking you read more into that post than was there. I certainly tried to be nuanced, but didn't have the time to properly caveat everything. I don't believe all "conservatives", regardless of how you define them, are mindless caricatures (the Tea Party, on the other hand, well the jury is out).
As the guy in extra long immigration limbo due to this shutdown, I also hope they work things out. I wish I didn't feel so strongly that the GOP is wrong this time around because that has me rooting against a "compromise", but c'est la vie. In general I'd much much much prefer that the politicians in this country cared more about the country than scoring cheap points and "winning the news cycle". Mud slingers are asshats.
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