mother


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chemvictim wrote:
"I want to share a word on secret elite societies that have laid the foundation of our destruction. I speak of the Bilderbergs, Bohemian Grove, *Council on Foreign Relation*, Trilateral Commission and all the Bloodlines of the illuminati.



OOOH I HAVE BEEN INVITED TO JOIN THE NEW WORLD ORDER AFTER ALL!!!! Silly me thinking I was left out of the party and the invitation was just a ploy to get me to subscribe to Foreign Affairs magazine!

jawlz


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chemvictim wrote:I'm comfortable with that. Does that surprise you? However, there should be something in place for the rare cases of mother's life in danger, or those (again, rare, but still) horrible genetic problems that get detected later in pregnancy.



Aborting due to a genetic problem in the fetus is an enormously problematic can of moral worms to open. :| Though I suppose it is becoming more and more open every day.

rpm


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jawlz wrote:Aborting due to a genetic problem in the fetus is an enormously problematic can of moral worms to open. :| Though I suppose it is becoming more and more open every day.



Indeed, morally problematic, but not a decision the state should impose, unless it's willing to bear all of the costs (which I don't think it should be).

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kylemittskus


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rpm wrote:Indeed, morally problematic, but not a decision the state should impose, unless it's willing to bear all of the costs (which I don't think it should be).



I, too, am comfortable with this. First trimester abortions outside of a positive amniocentesis test, medical danger to the mom, or terrible act/incest cases.

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PetiteSirah


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chemvictim wrote:We have constant ads for Dean Heller vs Shelley Berkley, and I get fliers in the mail almost every day. Pretty annoying. I don't really like either of them. What to do?



Berkley is terrible. She used to work for Sheldon, and she [Goodnight, everybody!]ed him over pretty badly on the way out the door. I'm not a fan.

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PetiteSirah


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jawlz wrote:Aborting due to a genetic problem in the fetus is an enormously problematic can of moral worms to open. :| Though I suppose it is becoming more and more open every day.



Is disomy 23 a genetic problem? It does lead to impaired cognitive spatial and mathematical skills, drastically increased risks of uterine, ovarian, and breast cancers, weaker bones, stunted growth, muscular weakness, and a weaker immune system.

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chemvictim


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PetiteSirah wrote:Berkley is terrible. She used to work for Sheldon, and she [Goodnight, everybody!]ed him over pretty badly on the way out the door. I'm not a fan.



I think she has a better record than Heller from a conservation perspective, which I think is important for NV. However, she's been accused of some serious corruption stuff. And she looks totally insane in all her pictures.

klezman


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PetiteSirah wrote:Is disomy 23 a genetic problem? It does lead to impaired cognitive spatial and mathematical skills, drastically increased risks of uterine, ovarian, and breast cancers, weaker bones, stunted growth, muscular weakness, and a weaker immune system.



Oy.

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bhodilee


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klezman wrote:Oy.



Vey

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mother


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PetiteSirah wrote:Is disomy 23 a genetic problem? It does lead to impaired cognitive spatial and mathematical skills, drastically increased risks of uterine, ovarian, and breast cancers, weaker bones, stunted growth, muscular weakness, and a weaker immune system.



I find it fascinating that someone married you

PetiteSirah


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mother wrote:I find it fascinating that someone married you



We all do.

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I think the late term abortion issue is a total non-issue, red herring. It's emotionally charged and challenging but comprises a small percentage of abortions (appx 90% of abortions are first term according to the internet). Later term abortions seem to fall into a few categories, including young women ill equipped to assess the situation earlier (second term, I believe these women deserve compassion) and true medical problems (third term). I don't understand why the issue is part of the conversation.

I hate single issue voters.

signed.

PetiteSirah


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canonizer wrote:I think the late term abortion issue is a total non-issue, red herring. It's emotionally charged and challenging but comprises a small percentage of abortions (appx 90% of abortions are first term according to the internet). Later term abortions seem to fall into a few categories, including young women ill equipped to assess the situation earlier (second term, I believe these women deserve compassion) and true medical problems (third term). I don't understand why the issue is part of the conversation.

I hate single issue voters.



+1.

I think that this is as pretty much to a consensus as we've had on here on any issue.

Roe is *great* policy, and Potty Emergency! Constitutional Law.

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kylemittskus


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canonizer wrote:I think the late term abortion issue is a total non-issue, red herring. It's emotionally charged and challenging but comprises a small percentage of abortions (appx 90% of abortions are first term according to the internet). Later term abortions seem to fall into a few categories, including young women ill equipped to assess the situation earlier (second term, I believe these women deserve compassion) and true medical problems (third term). I don't understand why the issue is part of the conversation.

I hate single issue voters.



I hate single issue voters when that single issue is one that isn't going to change.

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chemvictim


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PetiteSirah wrote:+1.

I think that this is as pretty much to a consensus as we've had on here on any issue.

Roe is *great* policy, and Potty Emergency! Constitutional Law.



I'm with you. Republicans, can you please talk with your "leaders," and ask them to stop threatening women's rights? I'd be so very happy for this to just go away. The Dems get a lot of mileage out of it, too.

chemvictim


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kylemittskus wrote:I hate single issue voters when that single issue is one that isn't going to change.



Oh, you mean like the economy?

Cesare


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chemvictim wrote:Oh, you mean like the economy?


Ha. Here's an article for you.
Robocall mania: Colorado and Nevada residents share swing-state stories

-il Cesare
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chemvictim


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Cesare wrote:Ha. Here's an article for you.
Robocall mania: Colorado and Nevada residents share swing-state stories



No one has called me! Now I feel unwanted. I've missed out on most of the campaign mania around here.

joelsisk


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chemvictim wrote:No one has called me! Now I feel unwanted. I've missed out on most of the campaign mania around here.



we get at least 2 a day... of course, the phone number is attached to the fax, and we never answer it, but caller id shows most of the time.

bhodilee


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mother wrote:I find it fascinating that someone married you



I dunno, someone married me, so there's hope for everyone.

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edlada


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I don't care what side of the fence you are on, Obama's bit about "Romnesia" was damn funny. I loved the punchline that if you have Romnesia don't worry because Obamacare covers pre-existing conditions.

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edlada wrote:I don't care what side of the fence you are on, Obama's bit about "Romnesia" was damn funny. I loved the punchline that if you have Romnesia don't worry because Obamacare covers pre-existing conditions.



+1

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rpm


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edlada wrote:I don't care what side of the fence you are on, Obama's bit about "Romnesia" was damn funny. I loved the punchline that if you have Romnesia don't worry because Obamacare covers pre-existing conditions.



Almost as funny as Romney's bit that Obama's remarks at the Al Smith Dinner were "brought to you by the letter "O" and the number $16 Trillion."

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rpm wrote:Almost as funny as Romney's bit that Obama's remarks at the Al Smith Dinner were "brought to you by the letter "O" and the number $16 Trillion."



Eh. It was funnier.

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rpm


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kylemittskus wrote:Eh. It was funnier.



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rpm wrote:chacun à son goût



Indeed!

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bhodilee


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rpm wrote:Almost as funny as Romney's bit that Obama's remarks at the Al Smith Dinner were "brought to you by the letter "O" and the number $16 Trillion."



They're both funny. I like this one more due to the big bird tie in though.

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mother


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rpm wrote:Almost as funny as Romney's bit that Obama's remarks at the Al Smith Dinner were "brought to you by the letter "O" and the number $16 Trillion."



Both of them were funny at the Al Smith dinner, but I think Obama came off much more gracious- Romney spent a little too much time attacking others, and that is more of a roast-thine-self type of occasion.

MarkDaSpark


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mother wrote:Both of them were funny at the Al Smith dinner, but I think Obama came off much more gracious- Romney spent a little too much time attacking others, and that is more of a roast-thine-self type of occasion.



Except Obama seemed to have just as many attacks on others. Plus he didn't get as many laughs with his jokes as Romney did with his.

Also, O got in the "We got bin Laden" theme.

Romney got in self-jokes on clothing, drinking (both cardinal turning his water into wine & being the designated driver), and getting a self-dig in about being a 1 term governor who's dad was a governor when he kidded Gov. Cuomo.


They were both equally gracious.

Edit: Except Romney mentioned at the end about respecting each other and Obama didn't say one word about that. He even said Obama has had some "very fine & gracious moments".


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MarkDaSpark wrote:Except Obama seemed to have just as many attacks on others. Plus he didn't get as many laughs with his jokes as Romney did with his.

Also, O got in the "We got bin Laden" theme.

Romney got in self-jokes on clothing, drinking (both cardinal turning his water into wine & being the designated driver), and getting a self-dig in about being a 1 term governor who's dad was a governor when he kidded Gov. Cuomo.


They were both equally gracious.


Perhaps you need to rewatch it? I have no other response except that 1+1 does not equal 3.

Edit: Even for large values of 1 ;)

MarkDaSpark


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mother wrote:Perhaps you need to rewatch it? I have no other response except that 1+1 does not equal 3.

Edit: Even for large values of 1 ;)



I did re-watch both BEFORE I posted. Perhaps you need to as well, plus go back over your flash cards, as I well know that 1+1 doesn't equal 3. Although that does explain liberal math skills.


And Romney was way more gracious than Obama at the end remarks.


Edit: Go back and watch both. You actually have Obama trying to get people to laugh by giving a laugh himself on several jokes, but hardly anyone was laughing at them.


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mother


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MarkDaSpark wrote:I did re-watch both BEFORE I posted. Perhaps you need to as well, plus go back over your flash cards, as I well know that 1+1 doesn't equal 3. Although that does explain liberal math skills.


And Romney was way more gracious than Obama at the end remarks.


Edit: Go back and watch both. You actually have Obama trying to get people to laugh by giving a laugh himself on several jokes, but hardly anyone was laughing at them.


Mark, you may be a nice person but you're not honest with yourself about this stuff. And I'm quickly remembering why I stay out of this thread- can't stand dishonest people.

It's not like Obama had many supporters in that crowd anyhow.

kylemittskus


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mother wrote:Mark, you may be a nice person but you're not honest with yourself about this stuff. And I'm quickly remembering why I stay out of this thread- can't stand dishonest people.

It's not like Obama had many supporters in that crowd anyhow.



Sparky's not lying; he's just seeing things in a different light that you. He may be delusional in this case, but he's not being dishonest.

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MarkDaSpark


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mother wrote:Mark, you may be a nice person but you're not honest with yourself about this stuff. And I'm quickly remembering why I stay out of this thread- can't stand dishonest people.

It's not like Obama had many supporters in that crowd anyhow.



And I try to stay out because of close-minded people who aren't open to discussion. But I keep coming back.


I'm giving up on this, because #1, I just found out we lost conroo (see the Pub), and #2, I don't care anymore. And thanks to you and Kyle for keeping it non-insulting. Way to go both of you.


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I thought both candidates were funny, although I didn't watch the whole thing. I only saw snippets. Both made fun of themselves and I enjoyed it.

I saw this picture this morning. I was NOT a fan of George W. Bush but the crop of goofballs we got this time makes me miss him.

MarkDaSpark


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kylemittskus wrote:Sparky's not lying; he's just seeing things in a different light that you. He may be delusional in this case, but he's not being dishonest.



I think we are all "delusional" in that we see things differently due to our experiences and beliefs.

We all have different triggers, and respond in different ways.

What to one is a deadly insult, is just a passing comment to another.

I'd hoped we could meet a common ground (other than wine appreciation), but it's obvious that we can't and probably never will.


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mother


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kylemittskus wrote:Sparky's not lying; he's just seeing things in a different light that you. He may be delusional in this case, but he's not being dishonest.


Not true. Some things are subjective and some things are not.

You could argue that Romney joked at others expense more, but that it didn't make him less gracious- the determination of graciousness is subjective. You cannot legitimately argue the fact that more of his jokes were at others expense than Obama's jokes were at others expense. I can think of no legitimate way to make that question subjective.

Mark is not remotely dumb, so I don't for a minute think he doesn't understand the difference between subjective and objective.

chemvictim


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Liberals are intolerant meanies

I read this to learn about how liberals are censoring conservative speech and being intolerant. I was disappointed. All I learned was that a few people don't want to play with Bill Donahue, known jackass and public embarrassment.

edlada


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chemvictim wrote:Liberals are intolerant meanies

I read this to learn about how liberals are censoring conservative speech and being intolerant. I was disappointed. All I learned was that a few people don't want to play with Bill Donahue, known jackass and public embarrassment.



Now there you go again, being intolerant!

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kylemittskus


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MarkDaSpark wrote:And thanks to you and Kyle for keeping it non-insulting. Way to go both of you.



Easy killer. I was joking about the delusional thing. I just forgot the . I was defending you. Personally, I think the argument you and Mother were having was absurd, but I didn't, nor do I, think you were lying during any of it.

Edited for clarity.*

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