richardhod wrote:Well, you could bottle larger amounts... ;)

Unlike commodity wines, there is an extremely limited supply of grapes for all the aforementioned wines.
Woohoo, top of the page twice already.

richardhod wrote:Fairy enough, It's just your 95 victory and 94 Syrah were STILL on the upside... I'd been hoping hoping the 06s and 07s of similar varietals might last as long :D

Those were larger bottles and imho were close to their peak. Keeping wine for that many years is always a risk, and bottle variation increases, probably due to varying permeability of corks to oxygen. For example, I've had marvelous bottles (750's) of our '94 Random Ridge Vineyard Cab recently, but one I opened the week before last was undrinkable. So, yes, the '06s and 07s might last as long, but the operative word is "might".

richardhod wrote:well any one bottle here is cheaper (and better) than one glass at some bars in Tampa...

Next time you stay with us and we'll drink well and deeply! Momma has me "fixin' up" the guest room...inspired by yourself.

rpm wrote:I think also that some of your single vineyard Cabs and your Victory are rigged for longer lives. And, I think you sell the lives of your wines a bit short (personal preference plays a role, of course).

The old ('94 and '95) Cab and Zin (admittedly in huge bottles, a Jeroboam and a Methuselah, IIRC) you served the original 2008 RPM Tourists at our Deuce dinner were magnificent wines no where near over the hill, with the Cab having (IMHO) at least another 5+ years of growth potential.

Thanks R. I prefer to err on the side of caution when predicting aging potential, particularly when a majority of the audience has limited or no experience with aged wines. I'm sure you know all too well that along with marvelous old bottles there are over the hill bottles. Extended aging of wine always entails some risk.

lileez wrote:After last week, and now today, could someone post the link for wine refrigerators? And as I type this, I am literally getting the "Stop buying wine!" talk. Please let WD be done with this cruel game.

cooler forum

SonomaBouliste wrote:Thanks R. I prefer to err on the side of caution when predicting aging potential, particularly when a majority of the audience has limited or no experience with aged wines. I'm sure you know all too well that along with marvelous old bottles there are over the hill bottles. Extended aging of wine always entails some risk.

Question Peter...Most knowledgeable patrons hereabouts say there is a "dumb period" on the bigger reds. Some say from 5-7 years out & that lasts 5-7 years. What is your opinion on that, and do your wines (these here especially) have an expected sleepy period?

richardhod wrote:I'm over 300 woots and no rattage yet ( agreed, I have a lot of gadgetry too...

WD: make this man a rat!!!! He's honest, half-way sane, and would probably gather the winos from around to help.

I've only wooted a couple times, and have been looking for my first wine woot. Sometimes the reviews are up and down, so I haven't gone through with it, but with the reviews on this, I would be dumb to not pick up a case. Just wanted to thank all the knowledgable people out there. I'm looking forward to more wine woots.

kylemittskus wrote:WD: make this man a rat!!!! He's honest, half-way sane, and would probably gather the winos from around to help.

+1

SonomaBouliste wrote:What, you want me to make a w00t offer of all the wines we only bottle in tiny amounts?

Yes, please. By the case too

SonomaBouliste wrote:Aging is a matter of personal taste. I'd rather drink a wine on the upslope of the aging curve than when it's dying.

Ah, Peter, another bon mot.
I'm going to have to remember that quote.

gregorylane wrote:Question Peter...Most knowledgeable patrons hereabouts say there is a "dumb period" on the bigger reds. Some say from 5-7 years out & that lasts 5-7 years. What is your opinion on that, and do your wines (these here especially) have an expected sleepy period?

Hello again Greg,

Bigger red wines can, and often do, go through "dumb periods". This is one of the sweet mysteries of life. People theorize about redox potential and other possible mechanisms, but no one has yet explained exactly why, how, or when these dumb periods come about. Wines will often "go dumb" a few weeks after bottling and then start to open up in a year or two. Other wines may become closed two to five years after bottling, and yet others may cycle in and out of awkward phases. Try to explain that scientifically!

So, bottom line, I can't predict if/when any of these wines will have a sleepy period, only where they are right now: the Cab has opened up rather remarkably in recent months, the Merlot seems closed in right now, and the Syrah is somewhere in between those two.

SonomaBouliste wrote:Even though we have a license in NH, we've had some issues with w00t shipments there.

Bummer. =( Thanks for the update though. We of NH will remain on the sidelines patiently awaiting better news. Perhaps I can find a w00t-legger in SouthWestern Maine?

kylemittskus wrote:WD: make this man a rat!!!! He's honest, half-way sane, and would probably gather the winos from around to help.

Is "half-way" a compliment or a dig? ;)

Daystar wrote:Yes, please. By the case too

Like that's going to happen.

SonomaBouliste wrote:

So, bottom line, I can't predict if/when any of these wines will have a sleepy period, only where they are right now: the Cab has opened up rather remarkably in recent months, the Merlot seems closed in right now, and the Syrah is somewhere in between those two.

Any tips on how can a less experienced taster determine if a wine is in a dumb phase or just plain not a good wine?

I caved, even though I tried so hard to be strong!

But now I am officially instituting a SIWBM through March! My first one!

If I was smarter, I would just avoid checking the site for a month, but I know I'll end up torturing myself.

redwinefan wrote:Any tips on how can a less experienced taster determine if a wine is in a dumb phase or just plain not a good wine?

It is very hard if you aren't already familiar with the wine. One clue might be that the wine doesn't have a very intense aroma, but still has a sense of concentration. Also, the aroma should develop / intensify with aeration and time (vinturi, swirling, decanting) and show new and different aspects of its aroma during that process.

Whelp there went my alcohol budget for the month. It's funny, I was just thinking this weekend that I hope a mixed case pops up soon and bam, there it is. You don't mess with timing like that /justification

Just put in my first WineWoot order(s) in last week.. very excited especially considering the great offers that were up.

I'm relatively new to Wellington, but based on the reviews and price how could I not click the pretty yellow button?

Very nice to hear the Vintners voicemail and feedback on the forum too. Already feels like home

my first experience with wellington was 6 years ago when wife (girlfriend then) and I stumbled upon the tasting room. we brought home a case of "the duke" and truly enjoyed it. i have never tried any other of his varietals and am looking to see if the hype is real (you wooters are in love with the guy)...lol

i went in on the scoot harvey mixed case based on wooters' infatuation with him and thought it was hit or miss...should i expect the same?

regardless, i am always open to new varietals form different CA wineries...

I need someone to twist my arm to "make" me buy this..... Will the wrath of DH be worth it? Will the looks of "not again mom" be worth it? It is bad when my kids love to show off my wine collection and the other kids gasp!! Tell me what should I do???? Do I push the button???

The 72 hour woot! forecast:
(Woot Favorite) + (Server unavailable around west coast lunch time) = A return of those wonderful flashing lights!



Hide your Visa, Hide your Amex and you betta hide your Mastercard too! Cuz there wooting everything around here.

I was really impressed with the D'ontspille. In fact, I was on the Wellington website this weekend to see what else they had to offer. So this is really perfect timing. It's a shame there's no pinot in this case but I'm very happy to have 6 new wines to try.

semirose wrote:Whelp there went my alcohol budget for the month. It's funny, I was just thinking this weekend that I hope a mixed case pops up soon and bam, there it is. You don't mess with timing like that /justification

Well, wine is only 13-15% alcohol, sooooo....

gregorylane wrote:What about that outrageously riotous live rattage you performed in bed???

Second-most fun activity in that bed! That was a volrat during a wootoff, hence the 'now realtime' necessity
..

Wow... I can't believe I'm going to say this... but I'm actually going to pass on a Wellington offer.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the wine. Indeed, Peter is currently maintaining a slim margin as the most popular wine maker in my cellar over Ty (with KR & Cathy tied for a not so distant 3rd). I'm simply full to the gills with "other" varietals than those that I'm focusing on collecting (CS, PS, & PN)... and I'm pretty full up on those as well. Plus last week did some serious damage to my finances.

dapplefield wrote:I was really impressed with the D'ontspille. In fact, I was on the Wellington website this weekend to see what else they had to offer. So this is really perfect timing. It's a shame there's no pinot in this case but I'm very happy to have 6 new wines to try.

From the Oct 2010 D’ONTSPILLE thread:

k1avg wrote:Also, I love Wellington as much as everyone else around this parts, but I don't think he's ever made a Pinot Noir before, has he? There's not one on the winery website or CT.

It's sort of a finicky grape to mass-produce such a first effort, isn't it? But then, if anyone can, then it's Peter.

SonomaBouliste wrote:I can't take all the blame or credit. My associate winemaker, David Noyes, is a Pinot Noir specialist, and he had a big hand in making this wine. I have made Pinot for other people, but never have bottled one under our own label. As mentioned in the vintner voice mail, this was custom crushed for a grower (from whom we buy Chardonnay) who didn't have a home for his grapes. He did find a home this year, so this is just a one time deal.

hogfatt wrote:SWMBO would then reject the premise of me having access to any money! :b

And people wonder why I'm single

SonomaBouliste wrote:Is "half-way" a compliment or a dig? ;)

Around this lot, I'd say half-way ain't too damn bad.

NightGhost wrote:

Thanks for the info. Yeah, I was a little confused by David's bio stating that he was a pinot expert, but Wellington not actually selling a pinot under their label.

Tasted through the Wellington wines at the Family Winemaker's tasting. My cellar will definitely benefit by having some Wellington in it. In for one.

dapplefield wrote:Thanks for the info. Yeah, I was a little confused by David's bio stating that he was a pinot expert, but Wellington not actually selling a pinot under their label.

I know where you can get some fine Pinot Noir without taking a second mortgage on your house: davidnoyeswines.com

ScottHarveyWines wrote:Tasted through the Wellington wines at the Family Winemaker's tasting. My cellar will definitely benefit by having some Wellington in it. In for one.

I am now convinced that SH is as addicted as the rest of us!

kylemittskus wrote:I am now convinced that SH is as addicted as the rest of us!

Most of us didn't get into the profession because of the high pay, short hours and lack of competition.

Way to go, can't resist this as well, anyone n the Fargo, ND area care to split?

With Central New York wind chills hovering around ZERO, we nevertheless have faith that warm weather will arrive - someday, and are interested in stocking up on more WHITES - especially Sauvignon Blancs. Can anyone advise us on your FAVORITE SB's? How does this current SB offering rank?

kylemittskus wrote:I am now convinced that SH is as addicted as the rest of us!

not to be a jerk but dont u think wineries have an interest in promoting e/o? we MAY be the pawns in this wine woot thing, you know? not complaining since nno one twisting my arm to purchase BUT making an observation...it is a biz after all!

woot123bagender wrote:With Central New York wind chills hovering around ZERO, we nevertheless have faith that warm weather will arrive - someday, and are interested in stocking up on more WHITES - especially Sauvignon Blancs. Can anyone advise us on your FAVORITE SB's? How does this current SB offering rank?

I have never had this SB but I can share what I enhoy in an SB: fruitiness and a nice tropical aroma. With that in mind I would recommend Dutcher Crossing, Ferrari Carano (fume blanc) and . around $20, $12, and $30, respectivey

richardhod wrote:Second-most fun activity in that bed! That was a volrat during a wootoff, hence the 'now realtime' necessity
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Volderat! He who must not be named must be a Rat!