sixdolla


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Is this what the kids are calling it these days? Oh, those rascals. Kids will be kids.

cortot20


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worldofjohnboy wrote:I'm not as picky as you... I'd rather aerate and filter my wine rather than "chew" chunks in my wine. Case in point, the Cliff Climber Red that I got not too long ago... some bottles had sediment and others had parts of the cork in them. It tasted horrible with just a pour and taste, so a couple runs through my aerator w/filter screen and I solved both issues!



I had sediment in the climber red I opened up last night too. The flavors were harsh straight out of the bottle. But it smoothed out considerable by day two.

CT

worldofjohnboy


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cortot20 wrote:I had sediment in the climber red I opened up last night too. The flavors were harsh straight out of the bottle. But it smoothed out considerable by day two.



Yeah... strange, you and I had the same experience. I actually opened the bottle and left it opened/uncorked overnight and it was much better. At first I thought that the shipping "cooked" my bottles, but it seems as though that's just the way the wine is.

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winesoiree


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worldofjohnboy wrote:Spotted some more comparisons on the Soiree vs. the Vinturi:

http://www.drinkdrycreek.com/?p=1070

and

http://albinnyc.blogspot.com/2009/12/aerators-vinturi-v-soiree.html

[i](Note: The 2nd reviewer did a part #2 that stated the Vinturi was easier to use, clean, and that you can use easier if you have more than one bottle opened.)



Thanks for the contribution. I am cool with your opinion and apparent preference. You should note the review also by Drink Dry Creek, who I have met personally on a few occassions and I know their "love fest" for Soiree is sincere:
http://www.drinkdrycreek.com/?p=404

As you have seen there are many reviews with varying opinions. I am not about being better than Vinturi, just to note that we are equally as good and work in a different manner. I let convenience of use and price tag speak for themselves. But different strokes for different folks, and I am glad that the screen is helping you with rogue cork, tartrates, and sediment.

Thanks for chiming in!

winesoiree


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seashore02 wrote:...It looks like a bong.


And... a very functional easy to use wine aerator.

Sardinicus


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winesoiree wrote:Venturi style aeration is very popular and works with deeply extracted and structured wines. However, these style aerators have ONE speed. . . . So you're not wrong if you're looking to treat wine like gasoline , but wine is fragile and does not need too much of an injection to open up.



So, yours is better because it doesn't work as well. Interesting.

venomancer


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Mattroid wrote:I can't be the only one that thought this was some kind of weird bong from the thumbnail, can I?



yeah i thought it was a bong at first too

i half expected the screen to say 'wine.woot is now integrated with weed.woot' when i clicked on it

blair1q


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Ugh. I'm gonna nuff hard on this.

It looks like it could aerate wine, but only when you have the bottle inverted fully so it can make a thin layer on the walls and turbulence in the nozzle. The bit that collects in the bubble on a tilted pour is getting no more aeration than if you put it in your glass.

Decanting a partial bottle hoping to save the rest for another day (under a vacu-vin seal, for instance) is not a good idea, because aerated wine goes back into the bottle, carrying oxygen, killing any hope of preservation. So this isn't any good unless you'll be drinking the whole bottle.

As for the aeration it does, you get pretty much the same air/wine contact from pouring into a large glass from a height. And you get more from swirling once it's in the glass. In fact, a few seconds of swirling a reasonable amount of wine in a proper wine glass will probably put more wine in contact with air than this thing could if you ran it through multiple times.

Now, if you're thinking of using this on old wines, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Since it only reaches anything like effectiveness when fully inverted, you're dumping all of the sediment out of the bottle with the wine. You'll have to decant twice, with a rest in between to let the sediment settle again (but the bottle's been sitting in a rack for several years, so you're not going to get the same settling from a few minutes on the counter...).

I watched the video and read the review at wwp, and puh-leez. Cadging free product creates subconscious bias. Example: When one of only two samples broke because it couldn't hold together under normal use, he should have been critical, not cautionary (how hard is it to glue a cylinder into a hole when it's the only two parts you have to adhere together?) If he'd paid for it with money he got from his grandma for his birthday, he'd have had a different attitude towards that. We don't get free stuff from this manufacturer, so we're owed a common basis for judgment. Such bias affects judgment on performance of the product as well as its construction.

The blind tasting was a good idea, but the results weren't as statistically conclusive as the conductors think, and the dismissal of "experts" at the end was hypocritical and self-serving. (An expert should come up with a repeatable result in line with the objective facts and the mode (peak) of the distribution of public opinion. Substituting your inexpert, personal, subjective opinion will be much less objective and will likely have a lower correlation to the mode of the opinion distribution. You may like your wine that way, but you're writing a review so others can form an opinion, not shopping for yourself, so your defiant subjectivity is detrimental to your readers, and proclaiming it is ultimately is just an obfuscated disclaimer of responsibility for any errors you have made, couched in populist tones to gain emotional support (claptrap)).

Summary:
1. Bad for wines with sediment.
2. Not as good as swirling.
3. Defeats preservation of partial bottles.
4. Poor quality control in manufacturing.
5. Inconclusive testing.

kylemittskus


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wellesleywinepress


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blair1q wrote:I watched the video and read the review at wwp, and puh-leez.



Sorry you didn't find my review helpful. I hope that if we were sitting around discussing these products over a glass of wine we'd be able to have a productive discussion and learn from each other. Cheers.

kylemittskus


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wellesleywinepress wrote:Sorry you didn't find my review helpful. I hope that if we were sitting around discussing these products over a glass of wine we'd be able to have a productive discussion and learn from each other. Cheers.



You, sir, are a gentleman and I think I speak for most of us when I say that we appreciate your participation and banter in this sometimes esoteric community!

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worldofjohnboy


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wellesleywinepress wrote:Sorry you didn't find my review helpful. I hope that if we were sitting around discussing these products over a glass of wine we'd be able to have a productive discussion and learn from each other. Cheers.



Not to make this situation any more argumentative, but even in your review, you explained that you broke the first one you have, and you didn't know how to put on the 2nd attachment, yet gave it a positive review.

In my opinion, the next version of this thing (if there is one) should be made out of high-grade plastic, or minimally thicker glass. Lots of people either seem to worry about its fragility or have broken theirs.

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nhillyer


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Great aerator but it breaks easily. Mine broke after 3 months and I switched to the bigger badder aerator Vino2O (something like that).

winesoiree


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Sardinicus wrote:So, yours is better because it doesn't work as well. Interesting.


What;s more interesting is that you have clearly not read the various results from the reviews. Fred Swan from NorCal wines has tried more wines than you have taken breaths (I've seen him at a handful of tastings). Norcal Wines did overtly rigorous tests and found results on different varietals and in relation to a traditional decanter. Bob from Wellesley wine press - called a "wine accessory guru" by Wine Enthusiast, has evaluated every wine contraption out there.

Anyway - if you read the posts it's not about who's better because the whole thing is subjective. When it comes to taste and palate interpretation there is no right and wrong. The 2 various aeration processes work completely different, as they will effect all wines completely different. Please let me know any sincere questions and I welcome the opportunity to discuss with you.

winesoiree


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blair1q wrote:Ugh. I'm gonna nuff hard on this.

It looks like it could aerate wine, but only when you have the bottle inverted fully so it can make a thin layer on the walls and turbulence in the nozzle. The bit that collects in the bubble on a tilted pour is getting no more aeration than if you put it in your glass.

Decanting a partial bottle hoping to save the rest for another day (under a vacu-vin seal, for instance) is not a good idea, because aerated wine goes back into the bottle, carrying oxygen, killing any hope of preservation. So this isn't any good unless you'll be drinking the whole bottle.

As for the aeration it does, you get pretty much the same air/wine contact from pouring into a large glass from a height. And you get more from swirling once it's in the glass. In fact, a few seconds of swirling a reasonable amount of wine in a proper wine glass will probably put more wine in contact with air than this thing could if you ran it through multiple times.

Now, if you're thinking of using this on old wines, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Since it only reaches anything like effectiveness when fully inverted, you're dumping all of the sediment out of the bottle with the wine. You'll have to decant twice, with a rest in between to let the sediment settle again (but the bottle's been sitting in a rack for several years, so you're not going to get the same settling from a few minutes on the counter...).

I watched the video and read the review at wwp, and puh-leez. Cadging free product creates subconscious bias. Example: When one of only two samples broke because it couldn't hold together under normal use, he should have been critical, not cautionary (how hard is it to glue a cylinder into a hole when it's the only two parts you have to adhere together?) If he'd paid for it with money he got from his grandma for his birthday, he'd have had a different attitude towards that. We don't get free stuff from this manufacturer, so we're owed a common basis for judgment. Such bias affects judgment on performance of the product as well as its construction.

The blind tasting was a good idea, but the results weren't as statistically conclusive as the conductors think, and the dismissal of "experts" at the end was hypocritical and self-serving. (An expert should come up with a repeatable result in line with the objective facts and the mode (peak) of the distribution of public opinion. Substituting your inexpert, personal, subjective opinion will be much less objective and will likely have a lower correlation to the mode of the opinion distribution. You may like your wine that way, but you're writing a review so others can form an opinion, not shopping for yourself, so your defiant subjectivity is detrimental to your readers, and proclaiming it is ultimately is just an obfuscated disclaimer of responsibility for any errors you have made, couched in populist tones to gain emotional support (claptrap)).

Summary:
1. Bad for wines with sediment.
2. Not as good as swirling.
3. Defeats preservation of partial bottles.
4. Poor quality control in manufacturing.
5. Inconclusive testing.



Thanks for "nuffing hard".

It appears you are a traditionalist in the wine world. I appreciate that and your comments. You missed the key to how our product works before you pontificated, which is ok and why I am here. The action you see of the wine in the aeration chamber is secondary to the "compression" of the wine and oxygen in the neck. It is the bottle neck that chokes up and causes a compressive effect on the wine. I have had winemakers tell me that they like that the wine is actually encouraged to integrate via our product. I'll answer your bullet points below. Thanks for chiming in!

As we have reviewed in the comments.
1. If you got to your local wine shop or supermarket how many bottles can you buy with sediment, and at a normal price under $20. Sediment is rarely an issue, unless you are a collector, and in which case you would hopefully use a traditional decanter.
2. You must have a heck of a swirl. Have you tried the product?
3. I'll argue that. There are wine writers that drink a wine bottle over 2 days and that is their gig. If you used the product you would note that the wine that falls back into the bottle will be a catalyst for oxidation of the wine. However, if you have a wine with a decent structure and extraction, the bottle will hold-up for 2-3days even if you used the Soiree. It does not instantly spoil the wine once it re-enters the bottle. Unless you drink 7/8 of the bottle and expect that to be good the next day, that would not be likely. But I imagine people saving a bottle of wine usually save a half bottle or more?
4. They are hand-made and as I answered previously - they are more durable than most wine glasses. You really have no idea what q.c. measure that we have in place, and even if you owned one Soiree, that would give you no basis for an evaluation of quality.???
5. There are plenty more places that have reviewed aerators. I welcome you to look at them, a very rigorous one is NorCal Wines for instance.

winesoiree


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worldofjohnboy wrote:Not to make this situation any more argumentative, but even in your review, you explained that you broke the first one you have, and you didn't know how to put on the 2nd attachment, yet gave it a positive review.

In my opinion, the next version of this thing (if there is one) should be made out of high-grade plastic, or minimally thicker glass. Lots of people either seem to worry about its fragility or have broken theirs.


We took a stance from the beginning to not use acrylics or poly-carbonates. NEVER will you see a wine connoisseur using plastic anything when it comes to wine.

And I appreciate the note on not being argumentative. I am happy to discuss any points, however please realize that you are claiming that "lots of people" are worried about fragility and have broken one. It seems like you took a poll, which I do not think you did? Everyone reading this post has touched a light bulb. Our glass is 15X thicker than a lightbulb. But yes it is glass, and that is by choice.

There are plenty of alternative plastic wine pourers that claim to be "wine aerators". These other designs usually stain, fall out, and do not have as high performance reviews as we do.

dropzone9540


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Just chiming in with my $.02. I purchased this from Amazon a few months back after reading several reviews on other products. The soiree got the most favorable reviews over the more popular venturi. I picked the soiree up for about $20 and couldn't be happier. I'll be the first to admit, I wasn't a believer in these aerators, but after the at-home taste test, I was impressed. It really opens up red wines and makes even a cheap bottle of wine taste better. I love the bottle-top design as I don't have to get it out for each bottle I pour or use two hands just to pour a glass of wine.

I'd say pick one of these up even if you're curious, you won't be disappointed.

worldofjohnboy


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winesoiree wrote:...however please realize that you are claiming that "lots of people" are worried about fragility and have broken one...



Re-read my post please, I never said lots have broken them, I merely said that lots are worried about breaking a small glass globe. (Read the posts on this message thread as well as those on the web, many people are 'worried' about the glass, but that's not to say that many have had them break.)

Though I understand that plastics are not as good as glass in the wine world, I have yet to suffer any bad "plastic-like" tastes when using the Vinturi.

I gave you a suggestion to stick with the glass material, just make it thicker and stronger. One of the video reviews I spotted, the reviewer actually broke the first one's stem.

I'm not one for taking polls, but let me ask you this: If I gave your product to my any person, and I also give them a Vinturi and they accidentally dropped them both from a distance of a foot+, which device will likely break and which one would likely not.

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kylemittskus


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worldofjohnboy wrote:I'm not one for taking polls, but let me ask you this: If I gave your product to my any person, and I also give them a Vinturi and they accidentally dropped them both from a distance of a foot+, which device will likely break and which one would likely not.



Drop a bottle of wine and drop a bag. Which are you going to buy? The bottle because you are talking about two different products that aren't 100% comparable. Or instead of using a wine glass, use red plastic cups.

I don't think fragility should be a huge concern for one item unless you practice your carefulness across the board. Just my 2 cents. Obviously glass is more fragile than plastic (this vs. Vinturi). And he has never said it was unbreakable. You're making a straw man.

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tytiger58


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Clue in honor of spain how about the spaniard?

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worldofjohnboy


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kylemittskus wrote:
I don't think fragility should be a huge concern for one item unless you practice your carefulness across the board. Just my 2 cents. Obviously glass is more fragile than plastic (this vs. Vinturi). And he has never said it was unbreakable. You're making a straw man.



I think fragility is a huge concern considering how much I use my Vinturi. I have never had it make the wine taste funny, it ALWAYS makes my wine better. The Soiree accomplishes the same thing my Vinturi does, it just fails in one respect that I feel is important. (With many kids and cats around, it could concievably break many times over.)

Please don't tell me what's important to me... it's my opinion, I'm entitled.

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kylemittskus


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worldofjohnboy wrote:I think fragility is a huge concern considering how much I use my Vinturi. I have never had it make the wine taste funny, it ALWAYS makes my wine better. The Soiree accomplishes the same thing my Vinturi does, it just fails in one respect that I feel is important. (With many kids and cats around, it could concievably break many times over.)

Please don't tell me what's important to me... it's my opinion, I'm entitled.



But don't attack the representative because you have kids and cats. He never said it was unbreakable. It's glass. It's going to be fragile. And someone who buys it should understand, just like I did when I purchased expensive Riedel glasses, that it may break. It just seems off-taste to argue with him about something he never claimed in the first place.

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richardhod


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worldofjohnboy wrote:Re-read my post please, I never said lots have broken them, I merely said that lots are worried about breaking a small glass globe. (Read the posts on this message thread as well as those on the web, many people are 'worried' about the glass, but that's not to say that many have had them break.)

Though I understand that plastics are not as good as glass in the wine world, I have yet to suffer any bad "plastic-like" tastes when using the Vinturi.

I gave you a suggestion to stick with the glass material, just make it thicker and stronger. One of the video reviews I spotted, the reviewer actually broke the first one's stem.

I'm not one for taking polls, but let me ask you this: If I gave your product to my any person, and I also give them a Vinturi and they accidentally dropped them both from a distance of a foot+, which device will likely break and which one would likely not.



Well, I'd say that wine glasses and bottles break, and this is likely in he same fragility ballpark. not too bad.

For me it's half the price of the Vinturi, probably a lot lighter, aerates less (more subtly?) which coudl be useful for delicate wines over heavy reds the Vinturi might work well on. But it's more fragile.

Take your pick! OR just be patient and use time :D

dropzone9540


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worldofjohnboy wrote:I think fragility is a huge concern considering how much I use my Vinturi. I have never had it make the wine taste funny, it ALWAYS makes my wine better. The Soiree accomplishes the same thing my Vinturi does, it just fails in one respect that I feel is important. (With many kids and cats around, it could concievably break many times over.)



You seem very concerned about the fragility of glass. Perhaps wine isn't really your thing. There's a lot of fragile things involved, bottles, glasses, decanters. It can get pretty dangerous. Of course, you could always drink boxed wine out of a plastic bag poured into your plastic sippy cup. But be careful, it stains too.

MoscowMidnight


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I think the seller might have sold a lot more of this product if he had come across as more credible and less full of the somewhat odd combination of puffery and near-confrontation. We're used to a different style of product discussion and education here on wine.woot. Not a ShamWow style of product push.

The sales job for the Soiree seemed like a cross between carnival barker and medicine show pitchman. Definitely turned me off.

I'd be curious to know what other wine-related and non-wine-related products his company promotes.

psmurf


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MoscowMidnight wrote:I think the seller might have sold a lot more of this product if he had come across as more credible and less full of the somewhat odd combination of puffery and near-confrontation. We're used to a different style of product discussion and education here on wine.woot. Not a ShamWow style of product push.

The sales job for the Soiree seemed like a cross between carnival barker and medicine show pitchman. Definitely turned me off.

I'd be curious to know what other wine-related and non-wine-related products his company promotes.



I'll disagree here with your opinion.
The seller threw his sales pitch as many here do, and in a factual and polite way. A few confronted him with non-factual(and actually rude, as yours) snipes... just their opinions.
Given freedom of speech here, some can be jerks at times.

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Neil Peart(of Rush)

kylemittskus


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psmurf wrote:I'll disagree here with your opinion.
The seller threw his sales pitch as many here do, and in a factual and polite way. A few confronted him with non-factual(and actually rude, as yours) snipes... just their opinions.
Given freedom of speech here, some can be jerks at times.



I'm with you. I liked the guy. I, however, did not purchase one because I am not spending unnecessary money right now and I have a Vinturi.

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MarkDaSpark


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kylemittskus wrote:But don't attack the representative because you have kids and cats. He never said it was unbreakable. It's glass. It's going to be fragile. And someone who buys it should understand, just like I did when I purchased expensive Riedel glasses, that it may break. It just seems off-taste to argue with him about something he never claimed in the first place.



Except where it could break INTO the bottle or glass of wine. Mmmmm, glass shards in my wine.

It's a valid concern of people, both new and old. Don't denigrate their concerns, just because you don't feel they are important.

And it's also why Schott-Zweisel has their Tritan line of glassware, which is less likely to break.


I'm interested in this, but I doubt it will replace my Vinturi or decanter. And it's fragileness is a valid concern, one which I don't feel that has been addressed to my satisfaction.


So it looks to me like ....

Vinturi is less fragile than Soirée and will not break into your wine.

Soirée can aerate a bottle quicker than Vinturi (from being able to pour easier into decanter).

Soirée is easier to use per glass one handed (although there is an accessory (Vinturi Wine Aerator Tower) for the Vinturi that allows you to place it in a holder, so you don't have to pour with two hands. Still it's an extra cost.)

Soirée is less expensive than Vinturi, but probably will not last as long (goes to the fragility of it).

Vinturi can travel safer than Soirée to events and during trips.


So, I probably will get one to try out, and will try them both side by side to see.


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kylemittskus


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MarkDaSpark wrote:I'm interested in this, but I doubt it will replace my Vinturi or decanter. And it's fragileness is a valid concern, one which I don't feel that has been addressed to my satisfaction.

So, I probably will get one to try out, and will try them both side by side to see.



Fair point. I wasn't (or didn't mean to) denigrate a valid concern. Just to point out that it seemed as if comments were rancorous vs. inquisitive.

And the above is why you're awesome. You went from concerned (presumably not buying) to "I'll give it a try."

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polarbear22


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OK, I have the Vinturi, and enjoy it. Great to take with me to restaurants where decanters seem to be unavailable. Yet I bought one of these. Great for a single bottle vs. glass by glass with Vinturi. My friend has one, and we liked what it did for the wine. And it looks more elegant than the Vinturi.

Like Sparky, I will do a side by side and see what I think. And for wines that are really too young, I will use both.

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tytiger58 wrote:Clue in honor of spain how about the spaniard?

Cheers!




Spain reign's ! i can now have winefarm back.

Clue? Red Natalie.



Moondragon


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winesoiree wrote:We took a stance from the beginning to not use acrylics or poly-carbonates. NEVER will you see a wine connoisseur using plastic anything when it comes to wine.



Not even a GoVino glass?

thrawn1020


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polarbear22 wrote:OK, I have the Vinturi, and enjoy it. Great to take with me to restaurants where decanters seem to be unavailable. Yet I bought one of these. Great for a single bottle vs. glass by glass with Vinturi. My friend has one, and we liked what it did for the wine. And it looks more elegant than the Vinturi.

Like Sparky, I will do a side by side and see what I think. And for wines that are really too young, I will use both.



This point re the portability of the Vinturi is interesting to me. I wouldn't even have thought of taking one to a restaurant, and I work in one! Then again, our wine is pretty iffy, and not likely to need aeration. Thanks for the contribution.

As it stands, I'm out based on the desire to one day purchase one of those nice decanters that wine.woot's sister website is selling. I would love to mess around with a Soiree though.

Not too many to count, but dang. This place has a way of building a cellar for you.

MarkDaSpark


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kylemittskus wrote:Fair point. I wasn't (or didn't mean to) denigrate a valid concern. Just to point out that it seemed as if comments were rancorous vs. inquisitive.

And the above is why you're awesome. You went from concerned (presumably not buying) to "I'll give it a try."



It's a wine gadget .... when have you known me to not buy a wine gadget?


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Winedavid39 wrote:Spain reign's ! i can now have winefarm back.

Clue? Red Natalie.



Nicholson Ranch has a Cuvee Natalie Chard. So I'm guessing one of their reds (Pinot/Syrah/Merlot).

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MarkDaSpark


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Winedavid39 wrote:Spain reign's ! i can now have winefarm back.

Clue? Red Natalie.



Hmmmm ..... Well, Natalie Merchant sang Red Rain with Peter Gabriel and Michael Stipe.

Falling Rain Winery in Washington.


Also there's a song called "Red" by Natalie Walker.

Stephen & Walker Winery in Healdsburg.


Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me!
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gcdyersb wrote:Nicholson Ranch has a Cuvee Natalie Chard. So I'm guessing one of their reds (Pinot/Syrah/Merlot).



Possible, but normally the clue is not about a wine, but the winery or winemaker.


Speaking of winemakers ....

Natalie West (scroll to bottom) is the winemaker for Foppiano. Who also make some very nice Petite Sirahs.

Her dad planted some PS and something else (ok, grenache) in his Zin vineyard for her to work with when she decided on a wine-making career.


Edit: And if it IS Foppiano, you can bet Loweeel aka PetiteSirah will be lobbying for labrat duties.


Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me!
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Moondragon wrote:Not even a GoVino glass?



I heart GoVino's... I keep 6 in my trunk for impromptu tastings. Thanks for the great point!

That would be the only exception!

Cheers!

MarkDaSpark


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In case it isn't Foppiano tonight ...




Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me!
*This post is for purposes of enabling only, and does not constitute any promise of helping pay for said enabling. It does indicate willingness to assist in drinking said wine.

winesoiree


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Dear all Wooters!

This is my first time monitoring a board like this, and WOW. I love the passion coming from all sides. No product is perfect, as I think we have ruled out here.

It is hard to sometimes keep the keystrokes tamed when you get a Sunday AM blitz - but I appreciate us all keeping it above the belt. And yes my candor is loose and with an edge ( or so it was intended). I aint no WootXpert, but I think the idea is to keep it fresh and fun and fun and informative and oh ya fun!

I really appreciate all the comments and efforts by:
dropzone9540 (Thanks for your $.02)
MarkDaSpark (way to pull thru)
thrawn1020 (get one and mess around with it
Moondragon (good call on GoVino)
polarbear22 (LMK side by side results)
kylemittskus (appreciate you jumping in)
psmurf (Thx for having my back!)
MoscowMidnight (I'm a one horse show)
worldofjohnboy (you're a worthy adversary
wellesleywinepress (Thx for jumping in the ring)
acdawg (nice tango, was fun!
drinknectar (killer blog - great guy)
sohony (say what up to NoLita for me miss it)
dckeegan (So that's a no go on the LaFitte?
KIBullhorn - (enjoy your SOiree!)
spdrcr05 (enjoy the BubbleBlaster!!!)
McMalbec (That's the ticket~!)
k1avg (working on the adapter for Camelbaks!)
megsailor (When's the boat leave)
Mattroid (enjoy!)
swarmer richc7 ccrida (thanks for the support)


If anyone has questions or wants to drink some wine sometime - I am on twitter at @WineSoiree and my email is info(At)WineSoiree(dot)Com

Cheers
Andrew