Look, I love beef jerky and all, but can someone PLEASE explain to me watching the films this has to do with wine? I so don't get this sect of woot. woot=general deals, sellout.woot=general deals (like a second woot), kids.woot=deals on kids stuff, deals.woot=sponsored deals, shirt.woot=shirt deals...wine.woot=wine deals, cheese deals, knife deals, beef jerky deals? So don't get it.

mpgearco wrote:Look, I love beef jerky and all, but can someone PLEASE explain to me watching the films this has to do with wine? I so don't get this sect of woot. woot=general deals, sellout.woot=general deals (like a second woot), kids.woot=deals on kids stuff, deals.woot=sponsored deals, shirt.woot=shirt deals...wine.woot=wine deals, cheese deals, knife deals, beef jerky deals? So don't get it.

Well, I guess being that it supposedly comes from Sonoma County, that's supposed to qualify it. Wine Woot has also sold knives, too, though, and how do they go with wine? As well as food spreads, chocolate, coffee, and others. Wine Woot is more of a Wine and Food Woot, than just wine, I'd say.

meh

I've been making my own beef jerky at home for years. No artificial flavors, no corn syrup, no high fructose corn syrup, no modified corn starch, maltodextrin, sugar, or silicon dioxide. No sodium benzoate, sodium nitrite, sodium erythorbate, disodium inosinate, disodium guanylate, or BHT (all preservatives and 'flavor enhancers'). No red dye #40 or yellow dye #5 (or whatever number fake coloring made of chemicals concocted in a laboratory these folks soak their beef jerky in). Nothing artificial whatsoever.

Just good ol salt, pepper, garlic, and different mixes of herbs and spices depending on what I'm in the mood to make each time around... and a whole lotta love. It's the best beef jerky I've ever had and every year at Christmas everyone I know whom I've ever gifted my home made beef jerky to begs for more. I make pounds and pounds of the stuff every year, and it. is. awesome.

This so-called 'artisanal high-end jerky line from Sonoma' is just a bunch of hoity-toity hooey and is packed full of the same chemicals and c r a p that any and every other jerky you buy off the hook at 7-11 is jam packed with. The only thing I don't see in their ingredients is MSG.

BLECH

nmctwx wrote:I just read the FAQ and it mentions, "It could be that legislation banning the item has just expired."

I hope it's not the case with this. I don't want to know what meat might have become recently available.

This is beef jerky, not most excellent marriage. What legislation regarding jerky do you really think occurred lately?

Nevermind that this is good jerky. If you were buying jerky from a van on the side of the highway like Gatzby, then you might wonder what meat(s) are involved. $20 a (roughly) pound jerky isn't going to have anything outside of the listed ingredients.

vinithehat wrote:was about to jump.. but!

Theres a few things in the ingredients of these products that i dont like:
*HFCS
*silicon dioxide (sand)
*liquid smoke flavor (cancellation)
*"natural lemon emulsion (water, lemon oil, *vegetable gum, citric acid, sodium benzoate as preservative and natural flavors)" (natural? ha!)
*various gums and starches
*effing sorbitol
*red #40, yellow #5
*sodium erythorbate - keeps meat pink
*disodium inosinate & disodium guanylate adds "umami" its already freakin' meat, for crying out loud.

Not that any of these things will kill you, they just have no business in beef jerky.

Keep It Simple, Stupid.

"This stuff is ARTISANAL!" Not really, no.

Agh, me too! These looked quite delicious and I was about to bite (haha) but jerky should never contain HFCS or artificial colors. Come on guys!

My friend was wondering if you had to be 21 to receive things from wine.woot that aren't alcoholic... such as these. Can someone please answer? Thanks.

kramerd wrote:1 slim jim is 0.28 oz, so this would be closer to 12 slim jims (X5 flavors).

3.5 oz is something under 100g. Or, if you like, I think it's a standard size for jerky bought in convenience stores...

Indeed by "comething under" I was close in my estimation:

3.5 oz = 99.2233 g

http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/ounces-to-grams.htm

ckeilah wrote:"Artisinal"? From Sonomoa, CA?! CA has those "happy cows". How happy are they now?

Sorry boys, if it didn't come from a nondescript shack in a podunk town in Texas with a burning-house level of smoke pouring from the backyard it probably isn't worth chomping down on.

Talking of happy cows, never drive up the I=5 in california if you want to eat mass market (aka
Harris Cattle Ranch) beef. For that reason I recoomend it, so you cxan see how horrible the conditions are that some farmers keep their cows in. the place stinks for miles. Just google "cowschwitz."

Anyone know where they source their artisanal cows?

bixmaschine wrote:$20 and it's got corn syrup and nitrites in it? uhhh, no.

No matter the creative pedigree of the cows, if a product has corn syrup in it, it's definitely worthless scaffolding. I liked the look of the flavours though.

glindagw wrote:No U or K on the packages of beef jerky (or anything else resembling a kosher certification).

Thanks I didn't see one either. Probably not kosher.

I was all ready to press the stupidly large button until I came up to the corn syrup on the list of ingredients.

O Why

Why

Why

triplesalcho wrote:It's $25, don't forget the shipping.

I would've bought this item for sure if it didn't have the $5 shipping.

I love beef jerky, and would've been very happy to try this brand out... but you can't beat Costco.

The Costco brand of jerkey is pretty lousy.

fairnymph wrote:Joy! Carcinogens.

Yeah, gonna pass on this. I love jerky but not with carcinogenic nitrogen compounds.

Mmmm... carcinogenic nitrogen compounds...

In for one... the stuff looks tasty.

vinithehat wrote:was about to jump.. but!

Theres a few things in the ingredients of these products that i dont like:
*HFCS
*silicon dioxide (sand)
*liquid smoke flavor (cancellation)
*"natural lemon emulsion (water, lemon oil, *vegetable gum, citric acid, sodium benzoate as preservative and natural flavors)" (natural? ha!)
*various gums and starches
*effing sorbitol
*red #40, yellow #5
*sodium erythorbate - keeps meat pink
*disodium inosinate & disodium guanylate adds "umami" its already freakin' meat, for crying out loud.

Not that any of these things will kill you, they just have no business in beef jerky.

Keep It Simple, Stupid.

"This stuff is ARTISANAL!" Not really, no.

Considering the news out about GMO corn (most likely the source of the HFCS and maybe some of the other ingredients on the list) possibly causing organ damage, it *might* kill you!

Sorbitol and feedlot beef are also things I don't want to eat. I'm very sorry for this, because the flavors sound yummy!

Hands off my jerky, turkey!

I have a $25 per month jerky budget, and although only half way through this month I have depleted the account.

Plus, eating this jerky might in some way be messing with Sasquatch.

sgoman5674 wrote:I like jerky. Anyone know if they are kosher?

I'm new on wine.woot. But if you actually keep kosher, you surely already know the answer to these questions. If you decided to do it for fun and are new at keeping kosher, let me help you out.

Meat which is not advertized as kosher IS ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT KOSHER. It is much more expensive and difficult to be able to provide kosher meat -- the animal needs to be killed in a certain way by a person certified in kosher animal slaughter. On top of that, all of the blood needs to be removed from the animal as the blood from any living creature (I think kosher cow zombies are excluded) is never kosher. This is difficult, expensive, and actually hurts the flavor.

Now that a company has gone through all this expense, do you think they won't advertize it? Perhaps rhetorical questions aren't for you. The answer: THEY WOULD.

As for wine: making wine kosher is also very expensive and difficult. It is an obsolete tradition that was a response to how wine was made thousands of years ago by various polytheistic peoples who would pour out some of their wine as a libation to their favorite deity of the week (don't take this literally, sometimes there was a deity libation-off on very special Tuesdays). Even though almost all wine you find nowadays is made by Christians (or agnostics/atheists) who obviously don't do this anymore, for a wine to be kosher, it must be made by Jews to ensure that none of the wine is used in a religious ceremony for a pagan god before being sold to a Jew. Oh yeah, and it has to be boiled. But the way that's done now, as I understand it, is the wine is fed quickly through a glass tube which has a flame under it at one point. This way the wine isn't actually boiled for a long time, and the flavor isn't very much affected.

If you really want to know this stuff in more detail and aren't simply trying to get more and more Zardoz (1974) "Quality Posts", you can go to the Orthodox Union website (www.ou.org). Star K, another kashruth certifier, has a lot of useful information for the kosher-Parve n00bcake as well.

And, of course, there's wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_wine

Hope this helps,
Dan

P.S.
I can't log into wine.woot from home (only from work) because of a technical flaw of the site which is why I often don't respond to responses to my responses in the responses forum. Even if I want to. Apparently IE6 is superior to Firefox 3 in some ways...?

DaZoneRanger wrote:I may not know wine, but I know jerky. I'm not even going to waste my money on this, because I'm not unique jerky flavor kind of guy. Pineapple, orange, chili garlic....negative. I'll take cajun & habanero, if they come from JVjerky.com

JVjerky's shipping cost is HIGH - $15.03 for 1 lb. of jerky.

danila wrote:
P.S.
I can't log into wine.woot from home (only from work) because of a technical flaw of the site which is why I often don't respond to responses to my responses in the responses forum. Even if I want to. Apparently IE6 is superior to Firefox 3 in some ways...?

I doubt that your problem is related to Firefox 3. I only use Firefox at home & have never had a browser-related issue at woot

ninaco wrote:I doubt that your problem is related to Firefox 3. I only use Firefox at home & have never had a browser-related issue at woot

I also doubt it's just Firefox 3 -- maybe it has something to do with logging in from Germany using Firefox 3 or something. I logged the issue with woot a few months ago and never got a response. Or it could be noscript/abp blocking some third-party login script.

kgw7208 wrote:Hey, I know the van you're talking about! It's usually parked on US 6, just east of the US 6 and I-70 intersection. Right before Idaho Springs as you're headed to the Colorado Ski reports.

He needs a new roll of duct tape. The 'J' is missing from one side of the van. I'll have to say I've never had the nerve to stop and buy anything from him.....

I feel cheated. I didn't see this van when I was there this summer! time to call my uncle up and tell him I need to come visit again. On another topic - I've been dreaming lately of another trip to the pool at Glenwood Springs...

mrzod wrote:dude, there is a pork jerky ... so no, its not kosher.

Obviously the pork isn't kosher. I was more concerned about the others.

Dear Woot staff,

Can you guys please post a picture of the back of the package. Thanks!

danila wrote:I also doubt it's just Firefox 3 -- maybe it has something to do with logging in from Germany using Firefox 3 or something. I logged the issue with woot a few months ago and never got a response. Or it could be noscript/abp blocking some third-party login script.

I recently spent 6 months in Germany and never had a problem signing into or utilizing woot's forums while also using Firefox 3. I'm not just saying that to be amusing either. I really was there and really used Firefox 3. There should be an easy fix to your problem. Sadly, figuring it out, however, won't be.

danila wrote:I'm new on wine.woot. But if you actually keep kosher, you surely already know the answer to these questions. If you decided to do it for fun and are new at keeping kosher, let me help you out.

Meat which is not advertized as kosher IS ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT KOSHER. It is much more expensive and difficult to be able to provide kosher meat -- the animal needs to be killed in a certain way by a person certified in kosher animal slaughter. On top of that, all of the blood needs to be removed from the animal as the blood from any living creature (I think kosher cow zombies are excluded) is never kosher. This is difficult, expensive, and actually hurts the flavor.

Now that a company has gone through all this expense, do you think they won't advertize it? Perhaps rhetorical questions aren't for you. The answer: THEY WOULD.

As for wine: making wine kosher is also very expensive and difficult. It is an obsolete tradition that was a response to how wine was made thousands of years ago by various polytheistic peoples who would pour out some of their wine as a libation to their favorite deity of the week (don't take this literally, sometimes there was a deity libation-off on very special Tuesdays). Even though almost all wine you find nowadays is made by Christians (or agnostics/atheists) who obviously don't do this anymore, for a wine to be kosher, it must be made by Jews to ensure that none of the wine is used in a religious ceremony for a pagan god before being sold to a Jew. Oh yeah, and it has to be boiled. But the way that's done now, as I understand it, is the wine is fed quickly through a glass tube which has a flame under it at one point. This way the wine isn't actually boiled for a long time, and the flavor isn't very much affected.

If you really want to know this stuff in more detail and aren't simply trying to get more and more Zardoz (1974) "Quality Posts", you can go to the Orthodox Union website (www.ou.org). Star K, another kashruth certifier, has a lot of useful information for the kosher-Parve n00bcake as well.

Thanks. I know all that stuff. There are certain foods that don't need a hekture (kosher sign). I am always on the lookout for new kosher foods that I can share with my friends.

No I am not new to keeping kosher.

I live in Monsey, NY which I have heard called the Jerusalem of the US. I work in the city and ride a bus into work with a bunch of rabbis who work for the OU.

FYI a lot of foreign companies do not show a hekture on the packaging even though they pay for it. In this case this fact is not applicable.

Thank you for the information, it is much appreciated.

mobrien05 wrote:Is it vegetarian? (yes, i know...i'm a jackass =)

I am not a vegetarian because I love animals, but because I hate vegetables.

sgoman5674 wrote:Obviously the pork isn't kosher. I was more concerned about the others.

Dear Woot staff,

Can you guys please post a picture of the back of the package. Thanks!

I'm betting that the company that produces pork jerky along with the beef does not get the seal of approval. (Ask the guys on the bus!)

JOATMON wrote:It used to be "One Week, One Wine", but that hasn't been true for years. It's now "One Week, Two Wines, Three Deals", which pretty much confirms that the Friday deal will probably not be wine.

I've never understood why the Wednesday wine ends at the end of Thursday. Why not let it end on Sunday? Then all three deals end on Sunday. Keep it simple.

sgoman5674 wrote:Obviously the pork isn't kosher. I was more concerned about the others.

Dear Woot staff,

Can you guys please post a picture of the back of the package. Thanks!

I have two of the packages at home. No U's, K's or anything else on them! I'll try to post a pic later today.

barrymccochener wrote:I recently spent 6 months in Germany and never had a problem signing into or utilizing woot's forums while also using Firefox 3. I'm not just saying that to be amusing either. I really was there and really used Firefox 3. There should be an easy fix to your problem. Sadly, figuring it out, however, won't be.

Yeah, exactly. :-(

sgoman5674: Yeah, I know Monsey, NY, I did my service in the IDF with a guy from there. But a facility that makes pork products will not receive a hechsher.

In any case, you can check yourself if products have a hechsher:

http://www.oukosher.org/index.php/product_search
http://www.star-k.org/cons-appr.htm

And I'm sure you can find other sites for other hechshers you consider valid. Some products don't sport a hechsher because they don't need one (single-malt Scotch, for example); others do need to obtain it but don't display them. This is correct. However, you will rarely (if ever) find that to be the case for meat.

Oh, and sorry for the douchey nature of my previous reply. I should be in a better mood at the end of the day on a Friday! But thanks for showing more class than I did. Shabbat shalom.

Ingredients in a Slim Jim for reference...

Slim Jim Beef Jerky:

Beef, Water, Corn Syrup, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Flavorings (contains Milk Solids), Salt, Less than 2% of Smoke Flavoring, Dehydrated Onions, Maltodextrin, Sodium Erythorbate, Sugar, Sodium Nitrite, Malic Acid, Disodium Inosinate, and Disodium Guanylate.

I leaped before I looked. Read the comments and reviews. Now I want to cancel my order. Anyone know how to do that?

[I agree; I'm a complete boob]

ckeilah wrote:"Artisinal"? From Sonomoa, CA?! CA has those "happy cows". How happy are they now?

Sorry boys, if it didn't come from a nondescript shack in a podunk town in Texas with a burning-house level of smoke pouring from the backyard it probably isn't worth chomping down on.

Amen there. It should also have the name of someone's grandmother or uncle on it.

to all you Sommeliers out there, what kinda wine is best suited for the different flavors?

humongous wrote:to all you Sommeliers out there, what kinda wine is best suited for the different flavors?

vinithehat wrote:

Hilarious.

I was all over this until I read the ingredients...dyes? BHT? No carcinogens in my jerky, please. On the plus side, according to Wikipedia, BHT is known to have herpes fighting properties if that's a concern for you....

danila wrote:
Oh, and sorry for the douchey nature of my previous reply. I should be in a better mood at the end of the day on a Friday! But thanks for showing more class than I did. Shabbat shalom.

Yeah its ok. Shabbat Shalom and Good Chodesh.

Jerky? On wine.woot? Okay-I'm down for that.
OH! Wait... "sodium nitrite cure". Really. You managed to make it without MSG (bravo!), but a couple of the jerky packs snuck in a nitrite cure. Sorry, gonna have to pass this time.

ckeilah wrote:But thanks for giving us a reprieve on the wine. With the Holidays' onslaught what we need now, more than more wine, is a few offerings of GOOD WINE RACKS! e.g.: http://www.brookstone.com/Swedish-Wine-Racks.html

Same racks at IKEA:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S49829079

I LOVE jerky and make some at home occassionally and was ready to buy until I read the ingredients list. Seriously. Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, dyes and nitrates? Ummmm. No.

Thanks but no thanks.

My favorite jerky is Wild Bill's.

Ingredients: Beef, Soy Sauce, Garlic, Pepper, Red Pepper.

Then the beef is hickory smoked.
And it's cheaper than this stuff.

Is this even American Beef?