MarkDaSpark wrote:What part of "Shall NOT be infringed" do you fail to comprehend? The 2nd Amendment is what backs up our other rights. Without it, the others are toothless old farts.
I'm not saying that the "smart" guns shouldn't be offered, I'm saying that they should not be mandatory. It's called infringement. Just like someone trying to tell you what you can and can't say under the 1st Amendment. (Edit) Yes, I know that you aren't allowed to incite a riot, nor allowed to yell "Fire" when there isn't one. But for the most part, as long as it's true, you can say it. What if someone started to say you couldn't write or say anything opposing the President (either party)?
I believe that this whole discussion got started because of an article about wacko conservatives (not you, you may be both wacko and conservative but not in combo) preventing smarter safeties on guns even coming to market. They fear the question going to the Supreme Court and so they won't even let conscientious gun owners have the technology. Plus, without a market, these techs can't develop into better, safer, more consistent ones.
How about the over 32,000 deaths in 2010 (down from the 40,000+ in the 2000's) caused by Auto Accidents every year? Shall we mandate everyone walk or take public transportation?
There are over 38,000 deaths from suicide (also 2010) every year ... only a small part is from guns. Those intent on committing suicide are going to find a way.
You use auto accidents as an example..... Very poor comparison. How heavily regulated are safety restrictions there? How much cost do they add to each car? Seat belts, airbags, abs, traction control....all required. You even gave me the 20% lowering of auto deaths in the past 10-20 years. Which side of this are you trying to argue? I am fully on the side of mandating reasonable safety measures...it seems like you are too. Don't ban cars, don't ban guns, mandate that both are safer.
As far as suicides... You quote 38K and say a "small part" is from guns. I already quoted 19K firearm suicides. In your definition then, half is a small part. Those intent on suicide will find a way, true, but guns make a very easy out with less time to think and less chance of failing. Having such safeties on weapons means that your friend's or father's gun won't work for you. Some of those suicides would no longer have easy access to this efficient tool. Over time as such weapons became common, the lives saved would pile up... Say 5% per year. that's still ~100 people per year. (Oh, and let's raise taxes a few more percent, the government doesn't quite have a "small part" of my paycheck in taxes each year)
You say how callous? How about Chicago, where Gun Control is king, yet it's the Murder Capitol? Ordinary citizens are forbidden from defending themselves. Or so called "Gun Free Zones", yet every mass shooting lately has occurred in one. I call that extremely callous of those promoting gun control. You don't hear from the lamestream media when someone is prevented from a mass shooting by someone with a concealed weapon.
And let's say that recognition isn't 100% perfect (because it isn't, and probably never will be). It could fail when you need it the most.
It's extremely ludicrous to assume that "smart" guns would do anything to stop violence. What's needed is more training at an early age of proper weapon handling.
I'm all for HAVING guns, having concealed carry permits. I am just between having smart guns available and having them mandatory (especially for carrying in public)
Say that ammo isn't 100% perfect (because it isn't, and probably never will be). It could fail when you need it the most.....
As I ALREADY RECOGNIZED, recognition wouldn't be 100% (nothing ever is) but a certain high level of reliability would work, I said 99.9%. That 0.1% is in the noise for gun violence but you bet the NRA would play it up because there are masses of people too stupid to realize that 99.9% is better odds than most things in life that they do every day.
I don't imagine that we will ever stop violence, but like car accidents, we can do things to help reduce accidental deaths at very least and likely some suicides, and also some hot-headed murders (grabs other persons gun and kills someone)
I hate how so many people aren't willing to work for incremental change. Quick fixes are rare. Often it takes a lot of little things and a lot of work to address a problem.
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