klezman


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rpm wrote:A reckless "mistake" isn't a mistake in the ordinary language sense. The ordinary language sense of mistake presumes, or at least implies, an error made in more or less good faith; reporting an item with a reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of the item negates any presumption of good faith and, in fact strongly suggests bad faith.



Fair enough. Silly me for presuming innocence. So three categories it is. To me there is still a major difference between even a reckless unverified story that is later corrected and something put out there deliberately as lies. Maybe not a massive difference, but a difference nonetheless.

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zTimothyBz


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klezman wrote:Fair enough. Silly me for presuming innocence. So three categories it is. To me there is still a major difference between even a reckless unverified story that is later corrected and something put out there deliberately as lies. Maybe not a massive difference, but a difference nonetheless.



Sort of like the difference between manslaughter and murder?

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rpm


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zTimothyBz wrote:Sort of like the difference between manslaughter and murder?



Not a bad analogy: from the victim's viewpoint there is no difference at all. With manslaughter/murder, she's still dead.... with reckless disregards/intentional lie, her reputation is still besmirched.

And, regardless of the lesser punishment, he's still a killer/slanderer.

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awl85


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On lighter note!

Go buy Ivanka's stuff!

edlada


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I find it rather sad and disturbing that the President's senior advisor is hawking the President's daughter's goods while serving in her official capacity. And it is just as disturbing that the President is tweeting about how unfair it is that Nordstroms has dropped his daughter's line. Aren't there more important things going on at the moment?

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rpm


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edlada wrote:I find it rather sad and disturbing that the President's senior advisor is hawking the President's daughter's goods while serving in her official capacity. And it is just as disturbing that the President is tweeting about how unfair it is that Nordstroms has dropped his daughter's line. Aren't there more important things going on at the moment?



at least tweets don't take a lot of time or thought....

In fairness, you'd be miffed if someone did your kid a business dirty, too, I suspect....

but, I agree it's hardly the same thing as (as I used to joke about my job in a black vault at [censored]) worrying about the fate of the Western world.

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MarkDaSpark


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rpm wrote:Not a bad analogy: from the victim's viewpoint there is no difference at all. With manslaughter/murder, she's still dead.... with reckless disregards/intentional lie, her reputation is still besmirched.

And, regardless of the lesser punishment, he's still a killer/slanderer.



Especially when the initial "report" was front page and the retraction was buried inside.

Or in today's electronic world, highlighted and any retraction hidden under another section.

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awl85


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rpm


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awl85 wrote:Oh, Canada!



Except for the adverse tax effects of giving up your American citizenship, you have the absolute right to go to any country that will take you. Most nations borders are somewhat less porous, and their immigration requirements somewhat more difficult, than ours.... despite what you may think of He Who Must Not Be Named.

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chemvictim


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rpm wrote:Except for the adverse tax effects of giving up your American citizenship, you have the absolute right to go to any country that will take you. Most nations borders are somewhat less porous, and their immigration requirements somewhat more difficult, than ours.... despite what you may think of He Who Must Not Be Named.



I interpreted that comment/link in a very different way...

rpm


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chemvictim wrote:I interpreted that comment/link in a very different way...



OK

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chemvictim wrote:I interpreted that comment/link in a very different way...



They all wanna piece of that poutine.

I think that's a Beyonce song.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."

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MarkDaSpark


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Of course, there's this proof of Trump Tie in Russia! ;)


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