richardhod


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Cesare wrote:

The 2006 is on sale at K&L for $16.99



Cesare are you sure it's the same version of this wine on K&L? That's a Russian River PN. As K&L say themselves in their short blurb: "He is doing three pinots under this label, Napa, Mendocino and Russian River".
From the woot blurb, this is mostly Potter Valley, and a little from other places.

bbarlame


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Looking forward to trying another KR wine. His post on noble rot was very interesting!

Hope I can be a rat!!

spdrcr05


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My auto-buy filter triggered on KR! Echo'ing PS & fairnymph's comments... if Kent put his name on it, I'm gonna buy it. Like fair... I too am out of storage space and really didn't need another case of wine.

In for 3 and available to rat.

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rpm


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One order is not enough! Kent's one of the better hands with Pinot Noir in California. I haven't had this wine, but I've never had a Pinot of Kent's I didn't like. Great guy, too!

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yessrinc


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In for one and the decanter is sparkly clean if rattage were to occur.

artulo


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I'm back and in without hesitation. SIWBM be damned! Cheers all!

scross8305


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In for one, just a sucker for Pinots. Willing to RAT.

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nickevans


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richardhod wrote:Au contraire, screw tops are cheaper by about half than corks. It makes sense too: aluminiumin bulk manufacture v cutting down trees, cutting and transportation.



Screw tops may be cheaper individually than corks, but you have to take into account the HUGE outlay of converting your entire bottling line from corks to screw tops. Wineries (esp. Old World) won't pay that kind of money when I highly doubt it would increase their sales at all, as any good wine store or restaurant will happily give you a replacement bottle if something you buy from them is corked anyway. The cost of that bottle is passed onto the distributor or importer, who accounts for corked bottles simply as a part of doing business.

A cost of doing business - that's exactly what corked bottles has been, and always will be. Nobody is losing any money due to corked bottles since it is accounted for (unless you're extremely naive) by everybody in the wine food chain.

darlenee1


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With rpm's endorsement (along with many other woot regulars),I'm in and available to rat!

Ran out of room for the wines, and can't think of a good quote for now

stephan8


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kolen wrote:Please explain how manufacturing plastic-coated metal caps/skirts is "environmentally lower-impact" than sustainably harvesting cork from mature cork oak forests.



I'm no expert but maybe this helps as to why the screw tops could be considered better for the enviroment...

After speaking with a vintner at a recent event, he said that it comes down to supply and demand. Demand for cork is greater than the supply right now which leads to "not so sustainable harvest" techniques and time frames. Essentially, trees are beings harvested of cork improperly (Some not all)or in the wrong time leading to damage to trees.

He also said this is leading to lesser quality corks as opposed to the solid, non-porous types. I have seen many variations on the cork that looks like it was cork bits glued together and some with solid cork caps on the end of the cork-glued bits.

I'm no expert, but these funny corks can't be as good as the solid not-so-porous type.

lbaro


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Always in for PN and Kent. Ratable!

jrbw3


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kolen wrote:Please explain how manufacturing plastic-coated metal caps/skirts is "environmentally lower-impact" than sustainably harvesting cork from mature cork oak forests.



My take on this would be that you are right, except for the fact that the almighty dollar gets in the way of the sustainable harvesting. So, like many things, if the producers would play along then the cork farming would be much "greener". So, the question is, do they play along? One article I read suggests that the cork farming industry is not akin to the evil FernGully types. More learn-ed folks on this forum (that would be most of you), please enlighten if you have that info.

Maybe this is better in the pub. Or its own forum topic.

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JLessard


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The Bluejay was phenomenal as a glaze for a pork loin, and KR's offerings have been wonderful to date, including the signed bottles a while back. I'd be hard pressed to turn this down, personally, even as the price seems to suggest a *gasp* lower quality PN.
In any case, I'm sure this'll be a wonderful sipping and cooking wine. Perhaps some coq au vin!

Hard to pass up PN, especially when it comes from KR!

DinkumThinkum


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Are the stats of the two vintages actually identical, or is there a typo on the main page?

ctripp


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1st Kent experience ever! While I am sure the carneros is a tier (or 2) above this I am still pretty excited. You guys have pretty much convinced me to buy Kent when ever he comes up and this is the first I have seen as of late.

Also: Rat me

rockdawg9


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JLessard wrote:The Bluejay was phenomenal as a glaze for a pork loin, and KR's offerings have been wonderful to date, including the signed bottles a while back. I'd be hard pressed to turn this down, personally, even as the price seems to suggest a *gasp* lower quality PN.
In any case, I'm sure this'll be a wonderful sipping and cooking wine. Perhaps some coq au vin!

Hard to pass up PN, especially when it comes from KR!



What is up with people cooking expensive wines? The Bluejay was quite light and delicate, and would surely be obliterated by boiling. Not to rehash an annoying argument, but I just do not understand this impulse.

HitAnyKey42


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I'll be ordering too, but waiting until after the rat cutoff since I won't be able to rat this week. Also if any of the NYCrew wanna combine/split orders through me, let me know. I'll place my order later today.
I actually don't have much PN in my cellar, and especially not the everyday drinker type. So this will be good to add.

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kttest


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oppsie


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Let's see, the DH started a new contract with a raise, I'm ordering a new wine rack that obviously needs to be filled, and it's Kent...IN.

Except that my IT department did something to the firewall or something and now I get the awesome "You've been banned" message every time I try to buy. Sigh.

PTommins


quality posts: 7 Private Messages PTommins

In for 1. Loved the BlueJay. Pat the Rat?

Bostonaholic


quality posts: 1 Private Messages Bostonaholic

must. resist.

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JLessard


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rockdawg9 wrote:What is up with people cooking expensive wines? The Bluejay was quite light and delicate, and would surely be obliterated by boiling. Not to rehash an annoying argument, but I just do not understand this impulse.



Understandable, but a few things:
1) I tend to have to drink the wines myself, as my wife is not a fan of reds, and I use less than a cup of it anyway, and it's slow cook, so it's not boiling away (if that matters any). I do not like to cork and save a bottle, I've found it never tastes quite right again; when I open, I finish.

> The Bluejay was quite light and delicate, and would surely be obliterated by boiling.

It wasn't obliterated by any means. It became a lovely purple glaze that added immensely to a recipe I'd "liked" before, but never really hit a homerun. This addition knocked it out of the park, as it were.

2) Better wines taste better in the cooking than cheaper ones. You get what you give, essentially. You'd use the best ingredients in cooking, ergo the good wines.
And cooking with a good wine lends a deliciousness to the piece that wouldn't suffice with a cheaper offering, in my experience.

This is also why I bring this statement and point up too: I love the Bluejay, and only have a few bottles left, ergo my choice to purchase these for cooking (in hopes that it's a similar, more economical choice).

3) I've grown up with Kosher wines and they boil everything, so I know what you're getting at - yuck! (not really a point to the argument, more a tangent!)

It may seem silly to do, but in many dishes wine adds a flavor, and often a glaze that cannot be explained but in the tasting. I take enjoyment from food and cooking as seriously as I do with wines. I don't feel I lose anything, but rather gain from the experience.

Wine is a great tenderizer for tougher meats, and adds a quality to stews and tough roasts that is almost heavenly. A good cabernet or merlot can do wonders for a beef stew - though I tend to use more average wines rather than, say, a Corison offering.

In the end though, people do things that others may scratch their head at, but one thing holds true: One's experience and preferences, thankfully, don't have to conform to other's standards. I do understand what you're getting at and I'm not "dissing" your opinion, merely stating mine.
As long as we take joy from the wine, no matter how it's used, then that's all that really matters. And for what it's worth, my pork loin glaze is a favorite among my family, including some really picky kids, so I consider it a coup.

Enjoy in good times and in good health!

ssoard


quality posts: 5 Private Messages ssoard
JLessard wrote:... my pork loin glaze is a favorite among my family, including some really picky kids, so I consider it a coup.



Any chance you'd be willing to share said recipe? I also am the only red wine drinker in my house and am faced with a similar problem of not wanting to waste good wine. I am fond of the opinion that you don't cook with an ingrediant that you wouldn't eat/drink on its own. Compare cooking with spices from the dollar store to cooking with fresh herbs and fresh ground spices. If you cook with crappy wine, the dish will suffer. JMO, of course.

afranke


quality posts: 10 Private Messages afranke

Oh jeez, not this guy again...

In for two.

polarbear22


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Anyone else having issues with the "I want one" button?

We keep having trouble getting it to work. We are stuck with IE6, so it may be the old browser at work. Last week I got it working on one computer, but not the other. This week I ordered off the phone. We have KR, it ships to CT, so I will go through the hoops to order.

Oh, and insert standard labrat begging here.

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bowerad


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SIWBM officially over. Can I send my new mortgage payment to the woot guys?

Love PN and have yet to try a KR wine. For the price, I just can't pass it up.

boaz38


quality posts: 2 Private Messages boaz38

I dare you to bring out the Roessler WD!!! Double dog dare you!! ;)

bigpieps


quality posts: 0 Private Messages bigpieps

I'm in for 1. Hard to find ANY California PN for this price with the amount of buzz/hype you wooters have displayed. I based my purchase on the comments. :-D

SunnyLea0


quality posts: 13 Private Messages SunnyLea0

I'm pretty sure buying this wine will precipitate a divorce, but I can't resist Rasmussen.

Some rattage may ease the pain.

canonizer


quality posts: 22 Private Messages canonizer
Cesare wrote:It was a pleasure meeting Kent in NYC on March 10th. We didn't try this wine but did sample 4 others- a chard, his regular pinot, a ramsay pinot and a ramsay merlot. Great stuff and a great guy. And we got to meet his lovely wife as well!



Great time!

signed.

bennyd27


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klezman wrote:Hard to resist given the awesomeness of Kent's Carneros PN from a while back. That one was a great start to New Year's Eve 2010!

I also humbly request WD and the woot gods bestow on me the privilege of ratting. It would be an excellent gift to commemorate defending my PhD dissertation and turning 30. I take it as a sign that an excellent offering appears the first Monday I'm in the country after these momentous events.



Congrats! You became a Dr. of Wine, correct?

bennyd27


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I would be in for one, but the wife just started nursing school and one income + wine addiction + wine woot = no money. Maybe if we just eat saltines and raman, we could make this work...

tytiger58


quality posts: 62 Private Messages tytiger58

I am really hoping this is a everyday wine not something I have to cellar! I seem to have so many wines that need another year or two I don't have anything to drink

Boy horrible problems right?

Cheers!

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lurcher


quality posts: 8 Private Messages lurcher

Wow - 2 orders in the pipeline and now this.

Figures, the one week I won't be home to rat I actually have time to order before the deadline.

If anyone in DFW want's to split this, PM me...

HitAnyKey42


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bennyd27 wrote:I would be in for one, but the wife just started nursing school and one income + wine addiction + wine woot = no money. Maybe if we just eat saltines and raman, we could make this work...



So maybe we should ask Kent which flavor of Raman he would suggest pairing this with?

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gcdyersb


quality posts: 141 Private Messages gcdyersb

What's the method of elevage? Are they kept in stainless steel or oak? I'm not looking for new oak or (cynical) oak substitutes, but I'm not a huge fan of "tanky" reds either.

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worser75


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Can anyone compare it to our favorite, Golden Eye PN ?

kylemittskus


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HitAnyKey42 wrote:So maybe we should ask Ty which flavor of Raman he would suggest pairing this with?



Kent. You = fail.

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tytiger58


quality posts: 62 Private Messages tytiger58

I hope the winery chimes in, I would love to know how these compare to there other PN's.

Cheers!

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snkp360


quality posts: 4 Private Messages snkp360

Hmmmm...

I'm intrigued but it takes a lot for me to buy a Pinot. But all the talk about this being a bigger style Pinot has me eying the yellow button.

Still waiting for more reviews however to tip me...

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