WaltW


quality posts: 1 Private Messages WaltW

Isn't it interesting how products "characterized by very high quality" that do not mention the country of manufacture usually come from China? These corkscrews have probably never seen Europe, let alone France or Épernay.

Many of the "French" Laguiole knives and corkscrews are Chinese.

lassow


quality posts: 127 Private Messages lassow

The really expensive products are French, like Laguiole en Aubrac. They are absolutely beautiful, but do not fancy the double hinge and cost well over $100, closer to $200-300.

I like to talk about wine, but I'd rather drink it.

aandrew667


quality posts: 3 Private Messages aandrew667

already sold out of every version except for Anigre wood? It's not even noon eastern.... L.a.m.e

bkarlan


quality posts: 45 Private Messages bkarlan

All sold out. Congrats

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse..." - John Stuart Mill

pilote


quality posts: 5 Private Messages pilote

...i ended up getting the bamboo, bone AND the amigre...

i originally hesitated on the amigre but when i looked at it as a great picnic knife than as a corkscrew, it was a great value purchase...

@ $20 these are a deal, if you're into such things...

sfabian37


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Wow another EARLY sell out. That is 3 just this week! Congrats on the sell out but, once again I waited too long.

You would think I would learn by now... lol

halnwheels


quality posts: 7 Private Messages halnwheels

I guess the economy IS improving.

pilote


quality posts: 5 Private Messages pilote
kwyjibo73 wrote:

So I'm stoked that these are smooth bladed.

Cheapest I've found online is $56 + free shipping on eBay...



...better get un-stoked; the foil cutter on these is serrated LOL

North316


quality posts: 97 Private Messages North316
pilote wrote:...better get un-stoked; the foil cutter on these is serrated LOL



None of these are serrated.

My CT

R.I.P. Inkycatz - Feb. 2013

aandrew667


quality posts: 3 Private Messages aandrew667
halnwheels wrote:I guess the economy IS improving.



yeah either that, or woot is putting up products without having remotely adequate stock. (Most likely the latter)

boatshoes


quality posts: 4 Private Messages boatshoes

Extremely happy with my two Rosewood corkscrews that I ordered the last time. They are nice and weighty, with a very solid feel. The wood looks great, and the box is sturdy. I would expect that the other varieties are equally well-made

Don't call it a comeback, I been here for years

pilote


quality posts: 5 Private Messages pilote
North316 wrote:None of these are serrated.



do you own one of these? i have NEVER seen a wine key of this type that did not have a serrated foil cutter...

North316


quality posts: 97 Private Messages North316
pilote wrote:do you own one of these? i have NEVER seen a wine key of this type that did not have a serrated foil cutter...



Did you look at ANY of the pictures? ALL of which show a smooth blade, none serrated.

And to answer your question. Yes I do own one of these, which is evidenced by my lengthly post detailing the one I own on the beginning page of this thread.

You come in here laughing at someone's comment and calling them incorrect, when you yourself simply made an assumption which was incorrect. I love the internet.

My CT

R.I.P. Inkycatz - Feb. 2013

North316


quality posts: 97 Private Messages North316
aandrew667 wrote:yeah either that, or woot is putting up products without having remotely adequate stock. (Most likely the latter)



While we appreciate the blanket statement criticizing woot, which is not support by any facts, the truth is much different.

There have been three sell-outs this week, the firstbeing Wellington which had 600 woots (more than most). The second was Lang Barbera which had 240 half-case woots (again a very large allotment) and the third being this, which had 1,244 woots...which is actually three times the amount offered during the last woot-off in which the vendor had to ramp up production in order to meet the order timely. But yes, you are correct. Woot is not providing adequate quantities.

My CT

R.I.P. Inkycatz - Feb. 2013

pilote


quality posts: 5 Private Messages pilote
North316 wrote:Did you look at ANY of the pictures? ALL of which show a smooth blade, none serrated.

And to answer your question. Yes I do own one of these, which is evidenced by my lengthly post detailing the one I own on the beginning page of this thread.

You come in here laughing at someone's comment and calling them incorrect, when you yourself simply made an assumption which was incorrect. I love the internet.



...well it looks like you get your gold star today LOLOLOL...

looks like i'll keep the picnic knife and give away the other 2...

aandrew667


quality posts: 3 Private Messages aandrew667
North316 wrote:While we appreciate the blanket statement criticizing woot, which is not support by any facts, the truth is much different.





not supported by any facts? lol, the fact that product sold out before noon eastern is pretty solid proof for my statement.

inkycatz


quality posts: 105 Private Messages inkycatz
aandrew667 wrote:not supported by any facts? lol, the fact that product sold out before noon eastern is pretty solid proof for my statement.



It's an interesting position to take, nor is it necessarily a unique one, however we have had days across the various sites (and a good number on wine!) where that happens. Probably more often than you've observed, but I don't know that for certain. Some folks think that's great, some don't. It's all worthy feedback but could use that active "how can we improve things for your experience" component. You're always welcome to PM us with feedback on that front.

And if you're sad because you missed out, well, that just happens sometimes. To all of us.

I'm just hanging out, really.

liverman


quality posts: 16 Private Messages liverman
pilote wrote:do you own one of these? i have NEVER seen a wine key of this type that did not have a serrated foil cutter...



I've got two from the previous woot (bone and rosewood). Both have a smooth knife edge. I confirm the pictures are correct.

If these are going to be offered again, maybe I ought to get them down off the "put away for Christmas gifts" shelf and try one out

Regards,

Greg

aandrew667


quality posts: 3 Private Messages aandrew667
inkycatz wrote:It's all worthy feedback but could use that active "how can we improve things for your experience" component.




I think the answer to that is fairly obvious. If Someone in california checks woot at 9 am and the product is already sold out, there was not anywhere near enough product for the offering. I realize that it's always a guess as to how something will sell, but you would think by now you could be closer than that. In addition, if that does happen, there should be be backup offering put up with a short time after sellout. That's just my opinion, of course, and as you say maybe there are people that love to see "sold out" when they first get a chance to check woot in the morning. To me that makes little sense.

North316


quality posts: 97 Private Messages North316
aandrew667 wrote:I think the answer to that is fairly obvious. If Someone in california checks woot at 9 am and the product is already sold out, there was not anywhere near enough product for the offering. I realize that it's always a guess as to how something will sell, but you would think by now you could be closer than that. In addition, if that does happen, there should be be backup offering put up with a short time after sellout. That's just my opinion, of course, and as you say maybe there are people that love to see "sold out" when they first get a chance to check woot in the morning. To me that makes little sense.



If you are waiting until 9am PST then either check earlier or check at 10pm before you go to bed. Us ESTers don't have that luxury because if we want first crack at something we have to stay up until 1am.

Coming from a business perspective, quantities are often dictated by supplies, not necessary by how much woot thinks will sell. Many of the offerings here are from very small producers so there just isn't significant quantities to allocate to woot (especially considering the discount they would have to give).

Then there are offerings like today's where woot probably thought it would last much longer. They sold 400 of these less than a month ago so they probably figured that the demand for more than 1,200 of them likely wouldn't cause that quick of a sellout, not to mention, the vendor probably couldn't provide them very many more due to production capabilities.

I agree that having a backup, or second item would be a good idea, but I fully understand why there is not one. Most of the time these offers are scheduled and set well in advance and the wineries know exactly when their item is going to be listed and therefore they set time aside where they can participate in an offering. That would be very hard to do if a second offer was put up after a sellout (which is why we rarely see winery/vendor participation during a woot-off). Not to mention, Wine.woot/WCC isn't really a wine warehouse and they don't have stuff just sitting around to offer and ship. A typical item is sold here, then the winery ships whatever the sold quantity is to WCC who ships it out to us, or the winery ships it themselves. This is a very different business model them most other sides, as wine.woot is not a wholesale distributer by nature.

Along with that same point, I'm sure that part of the sales pitch to have wineries on here at such good discounts is that they will have their own day in glory, devoted only to them, and will not be shared with some other winery, which by nature may be a competitor of theirs. And no one wants to come on here and be winery after the sellout, 2nd fiddle. Not to mention that a lot of people check the site in the morning, decide to purchase or not to purchases and then are done for the day and would never see a second offer.

Sorry, that was much longer than I meant it to be, but it is better than working.

My CT

R.I.P. Inkycatz - Feb. 2013

mrblonde13


quality posts: 0 Private Messages mrblonde13

I've owned one for years. Best corkscrew I've ever seen. Very high quality, sturdy, looks fantastic. Too bad I missed out on this Woot before they sold out. I would love to give these as gifts.

aandrew667


quality posts: 3 Private Messages aandrew667
North316 wrote:

not to mention, the vendor probably couldn't provide them very many more due to production capabilities.




I'm not going to spend the time responding to your enitre post, but I just wanted to point something out regarding your above statement. Nearly everything you see on woot is existing stock. They are selling on woot to liquidate overstock quickly. If you think this company manufactured even one corkscrew specifically for woot to sell for 20 bucks, you are mistaken.

time2testit


quality posts: 11 Private Messages time2testit

As someone who missed out on this (and really was interested in the rosewood), I hope this discussion will encourage this company to offer these again here on Woot!

richardhod


quality posts: 261 Private Messages richardhod
North316 wrote:None of these are serrated.



Technically, "None of these IS serrated."
8)

liverman


quality posts: 16 Private Messages liverman
richardhod wrote:Technically, "None of these IS serrated."
8)



And what is so wonderously strange about our language is that the opposite would be correctly formulated thusly:

"All of these ARE serrated"

Thankfully I learned English first - I really admire those who have to learn it as a second language!

Regards,

Greg

pomodesign


quality posts: 2 Private Messages pomodesign

This is Woot. There will be no whining about sell-outs. It's what this site has always been about and part of what makes it more interesting and exciting than Amazon or other shopping sites.

crystalinfire


quality posts: 1 Private Messages crystalinfire

If you missed out here is a video about opening wine without a corkscrew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CCl17__Hok





pomodesign wrote:This is Woot. There will be no whining about sell-outs. It's what this site has always been about and part of what makes it more interesting and exciting than Amazon or other shopping sites.



zenophile


quality posts: 6 Private Messages zenophile
ThunderThighs wrote:Did you see the Additional Photos after the write-up? There's a labeled picture of each one.



Thx for that, yes I used them (same images), but I discovered it wasn't your images at all, but that I have my phone browser on low quality images (opera mini on Galaxys2: crashes too much for my liking but it might be ICS). Fixed by using Dolphin mini. Damn machines :D

Still, while Im talking hone browsers, can you tell the codemonkeys that inputting on Androd broswers is hard work with these forum webforms: recoding for mobile browsers would help a lot. I know they're not hugely into usability, but it really would help.

zenophile


quality posts: 6 Private Messages zenophile
liverman wrote:And what is so wonderously strange about our language is that the opposite would be correctly formulated thusly:

"All of these ARE serrated"

Thankfully I learned English first - I really admire those who have to learn it as a second language!



IT's all logical. Helps to have learned Latin at school, which isn't taught in a way which helps you speak it (it's dead), but in a way to help you understand the logical structure of languages, including your own. One use of C19th philosophies of education. I can see you have a good command.

None = "not one", a negation of a singular, and therefore "is".
All of these is obviously plural therefore "are".
Collectives are harder, and common [mis]usage has resulted in common convention that you can say "Chelsea have beaten Barcelona at Stamford Bridge" and not be excoriated for is, even if "Chelsea has beaten Barcelona" is more logical and traditionally accurate. Both are equally surprising.

geekwench


quality posts: 10 Private Messages geekwench
micaelaanna wrote:Oh, and one more thing...is the True Bone (bovine) actual bone from an ox, cattle, etc.? Hard to know...I think I will avoid that one...although it has a unique look to it.



Yes, it is.

richardhod


quality posts: 261 Private Messages richardhod
geekwench wrote:Yes, it is.



Presumably not rhino. Still, I'm disappointed by the deathly silence over the "is the mahogany sustainable" question.

crystalinfire


quality posts: 1 Private Messages crystalinfire


If it makes you feel better that is a tiny little bit of mahogany, probably left over from
furniture making. It's such a small piece I doubt a chess piece could have been made from it.

richardhod wrote:Presumably not rhino. Still, I'm disappointed by the deathly silence over the "is the mahogany sustainable" question.



richardhod


quality posts: 261 Private Messages richardhod
crystalinfire wrote:If it makes you feel better that is a tiny little bit of mahogany, probably left over from
furniture making. It's such a small piece I doubt a chess piece could have been made from it.



I like your good intentions, but "oh, it's just leftovers" isn't good enough either for tiger bones nor rhino horn, nor unsustainable tree felling.

xxooss


quality posts: 10 Private Messages xxooss
zenophile wrote:The woot pictures are pretty crap: any chance you can tell us what that pattern is on it and or post us a pic?

JUST SAW THIS ...SORRY i WAS TOO LATE OR i WOUL;D HAVE BEEN GLAD TO :9

MaskedMarvel


quality posts: 11 Private Messages MaskedMarvel

just got a shipping notice, for those of you who had concerns from the last offer....

For those of yous that is concerning of the last offer?

Oh, I give up....

bwardrop


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bwardrop

Just got mine. I purchased the ebony, mahogany and bamboo. Thought I would share my impressions. These are really nice and well worth the 20 bucks. Very happy with my purchase. The boxes they came in are crap. One fell apart after opening it, but I really don't care about that. The fit and finish is uneven. My ebony is perfect. The bamboo has a gap where the wood joins the metal and the metal rivets have marks on them. The mahogany has a couple small dents that appear to be tooling marks. Minor complaints, really. If I had paid the MSRP of $100 or $80 Amazon charges I would not be happy, but at this price they really are a steal.

ojiikun


quality posts: 3 Private Messages ojiikun

Just got my bamboo one last night.

Box was a silly promo thing. Scratched and with the window falling out. Clearly not real wood.

Corkscrew itself I am a bit baffled with. The knife is completely dull. Wouldn't cut thru foil with any degree of effort. Ended up using a different opener to remove my foil then switched back to this one. The screw itself was very 'squeaky' going into the cork. Loudly enough that I'd be embarassed to pull this out at a dinner party. I hope this goes away. Opening mechanism itself was pretty good, though I thought the fully-open angle of the second pivot was a bit much. Using this without looking will require a ton of practice. Handle itself is a bit hard to hold and get leverage on.

Overall the screw looks very well-made and is generally aesthetically pleasing, but I am thus far very disappointed with it's function - almost to the degree that I'm considering asking for a return.