Roped my dad into splitting a case with me. Our conversation went something like (him) "Is it good?" (me) "People online say it is." (him) "Yeah, I'll split it with you!"

Note the severe arm-twisting.

losthighwayz wrote:Scott, can you elaborate on tasting notes of both pinots? Also, are they on the silkier side of pinots ala Scherrer/Siduri or more robust like Woodenhead pinots? Assuming, of course, you have tasted the aforementioned wines. Finally, does any heat show up?

Thank you!

I'm very curious about this as I have less experience of extracted ripe PN than I do of cleaner, restrained ones a la Rasmussen, or Burgundy which is yet another fine beast again!

What are the silky ones like, and what do you look for in Siduri/Scherrer? And likewise for Woodenhead? This helps us understand these Pinots also!

And while I'm at it, rpm, what about Sebastiani? What's it like? It was on the win menu, along with Buena Vista Chard, at LAX's Encounters bar. Incidentally, that's a great place: the one at the top of the legs in the tal central spaceship-like building, and it's like a hippy-decorated USS Enterprise (NCC-1701). Great place!

klezman wrote:Scott (or anybody), what is the price for the 1869 Zin on Cellar Angels? Charity + 1869 = all around win.

Not sure if it's okay for me to mention another website, but the Vineyard 1869 Zinfandel is regularly $42 and is $32 for Cellar Angels. I know now that in the distant future it will have to show up on woot at even a better price. Woot always gets the best price. That's why I buy so much wine on woot.

Gazzi Estate Vineyards Sonoma Coast Mixed Case
Current numbers (updated each minute)
First sucker: lenglish
Speed to first woot: 3m 11.250s
Last wooter to woot: mew5280

Gotta keep the UPS guy familiar with my house.

The finest European Terrors? Eh, that should be terroir, I would hope.

I've already ordered my case, but I'm sitting here reading everyone else's comments and awaiting the FedEx truck with my ice wine. I'm seeing more and more new avatars every popular Woot! Kudos to whomever manages to develop and assign them. They seem unlimited. And thank you Scott for all your wonderful input.
So how do we know that there is a WootOff coming soon? Assuming that's the monkey in the room...

richardhod wrote:I'm very curious about this as I have less experience of extracted ripe PN than I do of cleaner, restrained ones a la Rasmussen, or Burgundy which is yet another fine beast again!

What are the silky ones like, and what do you look for in Siduri/Scherrer? And likewise for Woodenhead? This helps us understand these Pinots also!

And while I'm at it, rpm, what about Sebastiani? What's it like? It was on the win menu, along with Buena Vista Chard, at LAX's Encounters bar. Incidentally, that's a great place: the one at the top of the legs in the tal central spaceship-like building, and it's like a hippy-decorated USS Enterprise (NCC-1701). Great place!

I haven't had a Sebastiani Pinot Noir in at least a decade, so I can't tell you much about what they are now like.

Back in the mid-1960s, most California Pinot Noir was rather thin stuff, usually not especially tannic and a little acidic, with a reasonable nose that was not a traditional Burgundy Pinot Noir nose. Amidst this context, I was pleasantly surprised when my Mother (who had some of Gus Sebastiani's grandchildren in her nursery school in Sonoma) brought home a couple of bottles of the 1964 Bin 121 Pinot Noir that one of the Sebastianis had given her to try. It was almost nothing like I'd tasted from Beaulieau (more or less a benchmark at the time) or anyone else. I can't say it really tasted like Burgundy, but it did have a much richer nose that was characteristically Pinot Noir and was overall a well-made, well-structured wine with a little more body (but not too much), and a long, very pleasant finish. If I remember correctly, it wasn't particularly widely available, and, after a fairly short release period, you could only buy it at the winery, and you had to know about it and ask for it.

winedrew wrote:Pretty tasty juice! Scott and I shared many bottles while putting this deal together!

Cheers,
Winedrew

I haven't been through all the posts, so I'll just ask. How do these PNs compare to Roessler La Brisa, my favorite Sonoma Coast PN (thus far)? I know it's asking a lot for these to be as good, but the other WD did say this was screaming.

ScottHarveyWines wrote:Not sure if it's okay for me to mention another website, but the Vineyard 1869 Zinfandel is regularly $42 and is $32 for Cellar Angels. I know now that in the distant future it will have to show up on woot at even a better price. Woot always gets the best price. That's why I buy so much wine on woot.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll start saving my shekels.

Hey WD, Scott says he can ship to NC and Missouri, but Wooters are reporting they can't order. Any chance for a fix?

Alison Gail Bixby wrote:So how do we know that there is a WootOff coming soon? Assuming that's the monkey in the room...

The "monkey in the room" is referring to this weekend's offering of a Woot! Cellars' "Monkey Second Prize" wine. Look for an excellent QPR from an excellent winemaker. Good reviews on previous WC offerings like Twas and Dontspille.

We aren't due for a WootOff! for another month or two (need time for unsold prior woots to build up) and they usually start on Tuesdays.

NightGhost wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I'll start saving my shekels.

I'll swap them for some Denarii if you're going to Latin America

kittymac wrote:so tempting… anyone in seattle interested splitting the case?

I am intrested to splitting a case with you. I live in Kirkland WA

Frackity, Frack! Frack! Frack! CC bank just called me and informed me that my account has been canceled immediately due to suspected fraud. It seems there have been a lot of liquor/wine purchases on my card lately, and they were concerned. Hmmm. Hadn't noticed.

You know you have a problem when your bank closes your credit line ASAP because they think you have a Wine.Woot! problem. Arrrrgggghhhh!

Why can't they just be enablers like the rest of you dear, dear, friends here in the forums?

[EDIT] Last wooter to woot: mike808

mike808 wrote:The "monkey in the room" is referring to this weekend's offering of a Woot! Cellars' "Monkey Second Prize" wine. Look for an excellent QPR from an excellent winemaker. Good reviews on previous WC offerings like Twas and Dontspille.

Thanks Mike. That is a new to me. Hope it's not too tempting, but I know it will be, and I'm weak but currently walling myself in with Woot boxes.

PTommins wrote:Who's the lucky one that gets that lonely bacon-wrapped fillet?

There's a few on there, just can't see the bacon that well.

I better get this one in before Friday, then.

Anyone think the PN will hold up to something like that? I'm thinking no, maybe the Noceto GP Zin? Something dense and leathery, for sure. RealWine(tm) for RealMeat(tm).

mike808 wrote:There's a few on there, just can't see the bacon that well.

I better get this one in before Friday, then.

Anyone think the PN will hold up to something like that? I'm thinking no, maybe the Noceto GP Zin? Something dense and leathery, for sure. RealWine(tm) for RealMeat(tm).

I think a robust PN will pair just fine with that. And I don't think these will be wimpy PNs.

mike808 wrote:Frackity, Frack! Frack! Frack! CC bank just called me and informed me that my account has been canceled immediately due to suspected fraud. It seems there have been a lot of liquor/wine purchases on my card lately, and they were concerned. Hmmm. Hadn't noticed.

You know you have a problem when your bank closes your credit line ASAP because they think you have a Wine.Woot! problem. Arrrrgggghhhh!

Why can't they just be enablers like the rest of you dear, dear, friends here in the forums?

[EDIT] Last wooter to woot: mike808

That's too funny - but perhaps overzealous on the part of the bank. When I ordered a big-screen TV from Wootazon, my bank suspended my account and re-enabled it after I confirmed the order was on the up-and-up.

Thanks for the PMs. I think I found a wooter to share this case.

Jumped at the Ty offering yesterday... trying to control the urge to pull the trigger on this deal... don't have a budget to support the woot temptations... Woot, you don't play fair!

NightGhost wrote:That's too funny - but perhaps overzealous on the part of the bank. When I ordered a big-screen TV from Wootazon, my bank suspended my account and re-enabled it after I confirmed the order was on the up-and-up.

I don't think it's funny. I find no humor at all in it. How are they going to enjoy the juice? I can appreciate a phone call from the company asking if everything is okay, but to outright cancel the card without any prompting of the customer is down right scary.

gooberpeas wrote:I'm on the Kansas side....just put in an order for one to split with someone from the missouri side. I wonder if you can give the address to a fedex/kinko's on the kansas side and just arrange to pick it up?

The "Hold" order is limited to the delivery area your shipping address is in. If you are sure you'll be able to intercept it with a Hold order, the shipping address doesn't even *have* to have anything to do with you.

The most convenient pick-up for me is a FedEx right across from work, so I put my work address as ship to address so I could re-route to that one. Closest to home was over 10 miles from the house in a different delivery area than the one by work.

Beware, though, very occasionally FedEx is late getting it to the state where you can put in a hold...one box got delivered to me thru work.

Joe

emdt wrote:Can someone tell me when this might be delivered to California? I'm away all week this coming week and don't want the wine arriving when I'm away.

They haven't been shipping until 10-14 days after the order date. It definitely will not arrive at your door within 10 days from now.

Then, if you do the FedEx Hold thing, you have 5 days after arrival at FedEx to pick it up.

Here are some data points:

Wine Purch @FedEx
InZinerator 3/9 3/23
VJB 3/6 3/16
Wellington 2/21 3/9
Rasmussen 2/18 3/2


Joe

InShadows wrote:I don't think it's funny. I find no humor at all in it. How are they going to enjoy the juice? I can appreciate a phone call from the company asking if everything is okay, but to outright cancel the card without any prompting of the customer is down right scary.

A similiar thing happened to my wife and I on our first trip to Healdsburg. Out card was declined at the Healdsburg Hotel - gotta love the look on the front desks face - the CC company told me there was a lot of fraud reported in Healdsburg and put a hold on my card.

ScottHarveyWines wrote:It is 200 cases. Always great to be back on woot. I love making Pinot and these wines show it. The Chard is holding up well only because I don't like to drink Chard and don't like making it. Therefore, when I'm asked to make it, or paid to make it, I make it more in the European style with good balance creating better ability for aging. Every now and then Jana pulls a bottle up from the cellar and even though I'm not excited about drinking Chardonnay, I'm always surprised at how well it is tasting.

I had dismissed this out of hand, until reading that Scott made it (and admits he made it). So, if Scott is willing to "put his name on it" I am willing to put my $104.00 on the line.

jbfowlertx wrote:I don't care for Pinot Noir or Chardonnay either, but this was an exception -- I don't know Scott Harvey's wines, but he has a good reputation and is responsive to the community on here. More importantly, this is only $100 for a case of what (at worst) appears to be great Tuesday night or dinner party wine/gift wine, so I don't see how you can make a mistake even if you buy it just to give away (it's nice to make other people happy too).

One question -- did I miss the "one case per order" type of restriction? I was only going to get one case, but it didn't even give me the usual "buy 2" "buy 3" option so I'm guessing I didn't read everything closely enough.

I would buy to give away.... but I don't think hubby would understand! I am trying to convince him I need a 100+ bottle wine storage something.... Seeing how I'm the "buying addict" he isn't too pleased to see how much they go for!! Most of my friends can't tell the differences in wines, so I tend to buy what I like.

lurcher wrote:If anyone buys this in Dallas (primary) or Houston (secondary) and want's to split, please PM me.

The wine fridge is full and I might be castrated if another case shows up without me intercepting it before it gets there :-)

You have a PM - hopefully we can help you avoid castration.

ScottHarveyWines wrote:I just checked, we can ship to Missouri but not to NH and Nebraska.

Until the shipping options are updated to include Missouri I, unfortunately, can not purchase this. =/

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Hm, so let's see if I read that right. (headscratch) No one has tasted any of these, and you can't buy them anywhere. The winery website is somewhat, ahem, primitive, and the Sonoma "Coast" is actually San Pablo Bay? They do come in bottles, that's a fact. The Chard is older than the hills, but I'm supposed to cast out everything I ever heard about over-aged chards and pick up a case of this for the pinots alone? Can't figure this one out, except that at $9 a bottle delivered it's almost cheaper than water.

Anyone in DC want to split a case?

Anyone else in SF want to do a 1/2 case split with me.

divadrabnud wrote:Hm, so let's see if I read that right. (headscratch) No one has tasted any of these, and you can't buy them anywhere. The winery website is somewhat, ahem, primitive, and the Sonoma "Coast" is actually San Pablo Bay? They do come in bottles, that's a fact. The Chard is older than the hills, but I'm supposed to cast out everything I ever heard about over-aged chards and pick up a case of this for the pinots alone? Can't figure this one out, except that at $9 a bottle delivered it's almost cheaper than water.

There are several good reasons (in increasing order of power):

0) Pretty label
1) Virtually Carneros AVA
2) Price
3) WineDrew says it's a screamin' deal
3) Scott Harvey

I think many of us are trusting that Scott would not sully his good name trying to pass off junk on us.


Joe

p.s. Forgot to mention, no one is expecting you, or anyone else, to buy any particular offering. Caveat Emptor per usual.

InShadows wrote:Anyone in NoVA want to split this with me? I am just interested in the chards and according to an earlier post those are like free. So I'll just take them off your hands and you can keep the pinot.

I am in Arlington. I only like red wines, so we could work this out.

divadrabnud wrote:Hm, so let's see if I read that right. (headscratch) No one has tasted any of these, and you can't buy them anywhere. The winery website is somewhat, ahem, primitive, and the Sonoma "Coast" is actually San Pablo Bay? They do come in bottles, that's a fact. The Chard is older than the hills, but I'm supposed to cast out everything I ever heard about over-aged chards and pick up a case of this for the pinots alone? Can't figure this one out, except that at $9 a bottle delivered it's almost cheaper than water.

I think you need to consider the following points:

1. The winemaker for all of these wines is Scott Harvey. He has been a frequent seller on woot - to general, though not universal, approbation. Many of us know him personally - last Summer's rpm Tourists had dinner with him and his lovely wife at his Napa ranch, and tasted wine with him in his personal cellar. He is not an unknown quantity. His words carry some significant weight here.

2. The "San Pablo Bay" location you appear to be denigrating is perhaps 400 yards from the boundary of the Carneros AVA, a more prestigious AVA than Sonoma Coast (which I will agree is rather a misleading AVA nomenclature). And, from a soil, climate, and location standpoint (I know the area well) there is no particular reason the area was not included in the Carneros AVA other than perhaps that there were no vineyards below 37 at the Sears Point/Arnold Drive intersection in 1983 when the AVA was first delineated - they used railroad tracks to define the Western and Southern limits. When the region was delineated, most of what's now Carneros wasn't in grapes! For all practical purposes, this is Carneros fruit.

3. Scott and WD say the Chardonnay is drinking well now. While it's true that mass-production Chardonnay is rarely worth keeping much beyond a few months after it's released (if it's ever worth drinking at all, but I digress....), well-made quality Chardonnay that has spent time in small oak barrels is probably at its best between the ages three and six, although some examples can be delicious at ten. (The 1979 Napa and 1980 Sonoma Chardonnays were particularly long lived, being lovely at 15). White Burgundy can be similarly long-lived, and the best - grand cru Chablis and White Burgundy - can live to be 10 in most years, and past 20 in great years.

alpha044 wrote:Anyone in DC want to split a case?

I'll split one with you. I'm in the downtown DC area. Sent you a PM.

divadrabnud wrote:Hm, so let's see if I read that right. (headscratch) No one has tasted any of these, and you can't buy them anywhere. The winery website is somewhat, ahem, primitive, and the Sonoma "Coast" is actually San Pablo Bay? They do come in bottles, that's a fact. The Chard is older than the hills, but I'm supposed to cast out everything I ever heard about over-aged chards and pick up a case of this for the pinots alone? Can't figure this one out, except that at $9 a bottle delivered it's almost cheaper than water.

You should also add that the winery is now up for sale, and apparently has had a hard time selling wine!

So, it would certainly be reasonable for you to sit this one out for the reasons you say. Without labrats and a any experience with drinking this, it certainly is taking a chance.

However . . . experienced wooters read between the lines, and have come to trust certain winemakers. Scott Harvey is one of these. And even more than his winemaking skill, I completely trust him and WineDavid that this story is true, that they believe this wine is great, and that the vineyard just couldn't sell its reasonably priced wine. (This is a very common story, especially the last few years. Many good, smaller vineyards have a very difficult getting the word out about their wine, no matter how good it is.)

So, I'm confident that I'll at least like this wine somewhat, and more likely will like it a good bit. Maybe a lot. And the style of Chardonnay sounds right for me. And <$9 shipped to my door.

So I'm in for only my second case from wine.woot (after the Wellingtons), and only my 3rd wine order (including the Ty from yesterday). (I also got some caramels and some olive oil). I'm hoping that this really is $30+ quality Pinot Noir, which I otherwise just can't afford. Crossing fingers . . .

Burgundian or not burgundian, that is the question?

Seriously though, I've seen these pinots compared to Siduri and said they are more like Woodenhead. Sadly we prefer Suduri(Monterey County Pinots) over Woodenhead so that nearly killed it for us. We actually really like Windy Oaks from Santa Cruz or Porter Creek from Russian River which almost takes Burgundian style winemaking to an extreme. If these aren't like that... hm.

I'd hate to jump in on this and discover these were done in a more traditional burgundian style so ANY AND ALL chiming in is appreciated.

Sounds like too great a deal to pass up; anyone from metro Milwaukee want to split one (and potentially take a heavy load of chard with you)?

gagepac wrote:Until the shipping options are updated to include Missouri I, unfortunately, can not purchase this. =/

They have been. I already wooted.
I'm in STL. BTW.

I fretted earlier and pulled the trigger reading only 200 cases.
Kind of surprised to see no bouncing button, yet.