Eastcoastmary


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mmmm, I really want this but still recovering from the woot off several weeks ago. I'll hold off until the end of the week and then I'll panic, thinking it will sell out and buy.
WW, you are hard to resist.

darlenee1


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and cross-post:

All of you attending the Clambake, please check your pm and respond. I'd hate to see someone lose a slot due to oversight. Not that I'm booting anyone off this week, but just saying I haven't heard from many (I know, Vegas, blah blah blah. JEALOUS!)

Ran out of room for the wines, and can't think of a good quote for now

k1avg


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k1avg wrote:Done. I figured that when they moved over to using the form, they just stopped checking the Rat e-mail address, but maybe not. I'd really like to Rat this one, but it's not like I'm going to throw a tantrum and leave if I don't get to. I sent them a polite e-mail, so we'll see what happens - the Woot works in mysterious ways.



The squeaky wheel gets the grease? I've just found out that I am being overnighted a bottle of Keating's best, though I know not what, and will be posting my impressions of such before the dawning of Wednesday. Rats ahoy!

(And the suspense is already killing me.)

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EricKeating


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k1avg wrote:The squeaky wheel gets the grease? I've just found out that I am being overnighted a bottle of Keating's best, though I know not what, and will be posting my impressions of such before the dawning of Wednesday. Rats ahoy!

(And the suspense is already killing me.)



Congrats... Can't wait to hear your thoughts. I think I know which one will be sent, and pay attention as that beauty opens up!

peterabbits


quality posts: 3 Private Messages peterabbits

alright! rattage headed my way! no to figure out what to prepare for dinner.... late dinner night as my son has swim practice... hmmm. gotta think about this one. looking forward to sharing w/ everyone!

kylemittskus


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peterabbits wrote:alright! rattage headed my way! no to figure out what to prepare for dinner.... late dinner night as my son has swim practice... hmmm. gotta think about this one. looking forward to sharing w/ everyone!



Please sample the wine with notes prior to eating anything with it.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen

peterabbits


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kylemittskus wrote:Please sample the wine with notes prior to eating anything with it.



thank you for the tip! i will definitely do that.

RobTheBold


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So, the Malbec. How does it compare to the Argentinian wines? I've only tried one CA Malbec -- a cheap one at that -- but found it wasn't nearly as interesting. What should I expect from this one? Will it like spicy foods?

PetiteSirah


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Guess I'm not getting ratted... :-(

Hail the victor, the king without flaw
Salute your new master ... Petite Sirah!


"Who has two thumbs and loves Petite Sirah?" ThisGuy!

EricKeating


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RobTheBold wrote:So, the Malbec. How does it compare to the Argentinian wines? I've only tried one CA Malbec -- a cheap one at that -- but found it wasn't nearly as interesting. What should I expect from this one? Will it like spicy foods?


To me, Argentinian Malbecs have a soft elegance to them, and almost a sweet characteristic (chocolate chip cookie dough/graham cracker).
The Rockpile Malbec is not a monster by any means, but it has much more body than a typical Argentinian bottle.

My Malbec can handle spicy foods up to a certain point. I wouldn't go too spicy. If you do go that route, a sweet spice would be best, maybe something with a chutney. It also pairs very well with fat, so grilled meats could be another spicy option.

k1avg


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EricKeating wrote:Congrats... Can't wait to hear your thoughts. I think I know which one will be sent, and pay attention as that beauty opens up!



I plan to. My girlfriend and one of our guests have a night class tonight, so dinner will be quite late. No matter what it is, I intend to open the bottle when I get home around 6:30, have a quick sniff and sip, pour it in the decanter, and wait. I'll check it around 7:30, and then pour a half-glass to have while cooking around 8:30. Dinner will be 9:30 or 10:00-ish, and I'll try to ration it out so we'll have some left for afterwards (with chocolate cake!).

All told, I should be able to track the wine's progress for four or five good hours, and anyone who's been in class with me knows that I take copious notes. Depending on what it is, I may open another bottle for comparison (we will have four people, after all) - perhaps the Judd's Merlot or one of my precious Wellingtons. I'll take plenty of pictures too, for the lazy, voyeuristic, or non-English-speaking Wooters, and also to show off my newly-assembled closet wine rack. All very exciting.

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haewood


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k1avg wrote: perhaps the Judd's Merlot



Don't do it! I cracked this one the other day and it definitely needs more time on the shelf.

SonomaBouliste


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EricKeating wrote:The Merlot is from the Bedrock vineyard in Sonoma Valley. It rests by Sonoma Creek just south of Madrone road, between Highway 12 and Arnold Drive.

Here is a picture I took in July 2008, so it is the same fruit in the bottle you will receive!



I know it well, purchased recently (within the last few years) from the Domenichellis by Joel Peterson. It was part of the Hearst family's holdings 100+ years ago.

SonomaBouliste


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EricKeating wrote:While we are at it, I have to show you pictures of the 'Montecillo' vineyard in Sonoma Valley. It is a 45 year-old vineyard from where I purchase my Cabernet Sauvignon (in the Merlot, the 7% Cabernet comes from this vineyard).
I am also in the midst of a current pre-release special on this bottle through my website. It's not quite the same deal as you are getting through this wine.woot offer, but it'll be the lowest price that Cabernet will see.

Here are the 'Montecillo' pictures:




I know this one well also. My vineyard foreman lived there twenty years ago when he first brought his wife and kids to Sonoma. I picked some second crop Cab there in 1989.

andyduncan


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Last wooter to woot: andyduncan

I just (re)noticed the confirmation page says this ships in "approximately 5 business days".

Good to see WD is still an optimist!

I'm putting WD's kids through college

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peterabbits


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RATTAGE REPORT!

i'll follow this up later after the wine has had a little time to breathe, but couldn't wait to open the bottle as soon as i got home - first time being a labrat after all.... please go easy on me as i'm still relatively new to wine and am really trying to get into actually tasting and taking notes, etc...

i got the Merlot. i haven't had many merlot's lately so i don't have much to compare it to. right out of the bottle, this wine has a wonderful aroma, deep and rich, almost a little chocolate smelling, and i'm now getting a bit of tobacco smell. the color is a very nice deep purple. on tasting, i get red berries right away, and some tobacco later. this has a very smooth, long finish and is quite enjoyable. after i get back from my son's swim practice after this has had some time to breathe (couple hours) - i'll try it again to see how it differs.

thank you woot, and thank you Keating wines (and Eric)!

**UPDATE** - wine has smoothed out quite a bit, but i would not say is has mellowed any. the sense of tobacco has dropped in intensity somewhat, the fruit has opened up some. glad i went in for 2 on this package.

thanks again!

k1avg


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McMalbec wrote:In for one. May this be the first domestic Malbec that I can say I have enjoyed.



Trust me, it will be.

More later.

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cortot20


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andyduncan wrote:Last wooter to woot: andyduncan

I just (re)noticed the confirmation page says this ships in "approximately 5 business days".

Good to see WD is still an optimist!



I usually get the shipping notification within 5 days of the end if the sale. If you buy this you should receive your notice by COB next Friday the 28th. And receive your wine the following Tuesday or Wednesday.
I would say that most of my wine purchases fit into this time frame.

CT

k1avg


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SCENE. Four unsuspecting souls, gathered in a small but surprisingly spacious Capitol Hill apartment. Little do they know - tonight, the MALBEC rides.

7:00pm. Heavy. This bottle is so heavy. What, did they carve it straight from the mountainside? I wonder how the grapes feel about that. Into the fridge for a bit, Mr. Keating.

7:15pm. Apple is to orange as Malbec is to ___? How am I to judge this sweet, sweet (free) nectar? Against a dark, young Syrah? A hefty Cab? A (gasp!) Rioja? Nay - only a brother Malbec will do. To the bodega!

7:30pm. Upon my return, with two embarrassingly inexpensive Argentinean Malbecs, it's time to begin. *pop* Ah, a solid beginning. Stop! Decanter time! The Malbec pours a deep, deep burgundy, a very...cultured...color. The sort of color you might buy a Buick in sixty years from now. Even the little bubbles have a dark reddish tint. Yeah, this would stain the heck out of my carpet. Must be careful.

The first word I have written down for the nose is "heavenly," and for some reason I underlined it twice. Right after opening, no less - a powerful scent of dusty earth (the mountains of Rockpile, perhaps?), dark fruits (dark arts?) of cherry and ripe plums, a light herbal component - almost menthol (sort of "Old World" like a Rioja), but not quite - and something else I can't put my finger on, a faint spiciness (perhaps what some snobbily call "cigar box"). Out of the bottle, this wine smells much older than it really is - on scent alone, it could almost pass as a decade-old Bordeaux (but yeah, probably not).

Oh, wait. Wine is for drinking! At this point, it was very astringent and closed, a bit plummy and earthy, but really needs a good one or two hours in the decanter. So...we wait.

8:30pm. From my notes, verbatim: "so much different!" With just one painful hour of waiting, the fruitiness in the nose came to the forefront, and on the palate the wine grew incredibly expansive, presenting a whole array of acidic fruits - plums, pomegranate, a hint of strawberry, maybe a little tart blackberry - and an interesting bit of minerality. The minerals are not so gritty (like the TLC Cab/Shiraz, which I love), but just...solid - like the difference between crumbly limestone and a clean-cut quartz crystal. There's something just very solid about this wine - perhaps it's the unshakable balance, though even after an hour it was still "rippling with tannins." (Who writes like that? And in longhand, no less?)

The finish, as advertised, is very long and very crisp - the flavor stays on your tongue for ages, but doesn't coat your mouth like many "big" wines, and there's no lingering jamminess or syrupiness at all. This, if my newfound wine snobbery does not fail me, signifies a very well-made wine (along with the "legs for days," as they say).

9:10pm. Time for a taste test! Opening the competitor wines, one immediately drops out of the running (the Aguaribay, with an odd rotten banana flavor that might be a fault - or may just be the fault of cheapness), but the Trapiche actually held its own, a little fuller on the palate than our hero Keating, but a bit jammier in the finish and not nearly as complex.

9:30pm. Anyone who tries to argue that evolution is just a theory has clearly never had this wine. Another hour of breathing under its belt, and it has changed its composure all over again - perfectly balancing fruit and acidity, and adding notes of tobacco, oak, and just a slight hint of pepperiness to the party. (Upon further reflection, I would later decide that it was this point at which the wine had "peaked," surely a useful bit of information for future consumers.)

9:35pm. Another sip, another flavor. This time it's something just ever so suggestively green - like a patch of good fairway, but maybe a little weedier, like crabgrass. But in a good way. It's the best crabgrass experience I've ever had.

9:45pm. My girlfriend arrives home and is quickly fed a half-glass of the good Keating juice. She cites plums and a licorice scent, and notes that the tannins (which, proudly, I taught her about) are noticeable but not overbearing. She is learning indeed.

10:10pm. The food is prepared and the guests arrive. The Keating stands guard in its decanter, prepared to do battle with the balsamic-marinated strip steaks, garlic mashed potatoes, and crispy green beans I deemed logical to neatly arrange on a plate. Glasses of Keating and Trapiche are dished out accordingly. Guest J claims he senses some "peppery notes" in the Keating while Guest K, though overall preferring the fuller body of the Trapiche (as is her personal preference), describes the Keating as more accessible and straightforward - the flavors of the Keating are all much clearer and the overall profile is more complex. (Interestingly, I note snidely to myself, this seems a bit backward from the good Mr. Keating's statements earlier, but I can't say I disagree - perhaps the Trapiche is simply unusually full-bodied for an Argentine).

Next to the acidity of the steaks, the creaminess of the potatoes, and the crunchiness of the green beans, though, the Keating is, bar none, the better food wine - its flavors are present but not overpowering, and the long, crisp finish is simply sublime with food involved, handling every aspect of the meal with aplomb and quickly clearing the palate for the next bite.

11:00pm. Dinner complete, we tear into a chocolate cake - the wine is just a bit too acidic and light to go well here; this is where you'd want a little jamminess, I think - and decide, whimsically, to light up a hookah, something I haven't done in ages. The Malbec provides a perfect companion to our jasmine-flavored hookah, again showing stupendous balance between fruit, acidity, and body.

1:30am. As we clean up the simply awful mess this wine inspired and I sit to jot my thoughts away in Notepad with reckless abandon, there is barely one glass left, and it seems to be almost fading away a bit. The fruit has mostly taken over, and the spiciness, pepper, and other odd complex nuggets have mostly disappeared.

Conclusions? Why, yes, I've some. The Malbec - it is good, bordering on great. My sincerest applause to the talented and daring Mr. Keating, and most gracious thanks to WineDavid and the whole Wine.Woot motley crew. Asked to play Robert Parker for a night, I would probably give it a 91 or 92 (and will do so on CT). The balance is simply incredible - the fruit, spice notes, acidity, and body combine to make this wine taste incredibly composed throughout the night. The tannins were a little rough, but then, we're still a year away from the beginning of Mr. Keating's stated window. Right now, though, you're going to get the best of wine with 1-4 hours of decanting, and accompanying a substantial meal. It's pretty good on its own, too, but I suspect one would grow weary of the tannins after a full glass or so by itself.

This the first American Malbec I've had (and frankly I had no idea anyone even grew Malbec in America before yesterday), but it almost certainly sets an impossible bar for any others, and gives even the most expensive South American versions a run for their money. Against the...ahem, inexpensive...comparison wines I provided - there was simply no contest against the Aguaribay (but that's saying little - most of that will probably go down the drain) and, in my opinion, the Keating easily bested the Trapiche through its balance and complexity (demonstrating, I think, the greater amount of attention readily paid to its production). Price-wise, the Trapiche cost me $14, while the Keating here is $17-18 (depending on your level of commitment), and the difference is easily worth the extra cash. However, I wouldn't really see myself buying the Keating off the shelf at $42 - but if I would, I wouldn't really need Wine.Woot, now would I?

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EricKeating


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Wow, that was an extremely detailed write-up. Nice work! Great photos, too.

I am glad that I got to see my Malbec compete with the recently popular, low-priced Malbecs from Argentina. In my experience, maybe 1 out of 4 is pretty good, and the rest are terrible. It appears you had 1 bad and 1 good.

By your description, I can picture the Trapiche's style... it was probably picked late which gives it that pruny, porty, sweet characteristic. Maybe some residual sugar in the wine to make it more approachable to a certain audience. In fact, I think more people prefer that style than mine. All my wines are completely dry. I let the essence of fruit provide a touch of sweetness, not residual sugar.

I stated earlier (as you correctly pointed out) that California Malbecs are bigger. Sometimes the jamminess of an overripe wine gives that impression. I should have clarified a bit more. I was generalizing California Malbec as a whole. My 2006 Malbec turned out to be the most old-world style wine I have made thus far. You impressively picked up on that when you compared it to a Bordeaux.

By the way, great job in your description of the 2006 Malbec. You were right on the money, and you have only had it once whereas I have had it several times. I would describe it as you did at the specific time periods. It softens with a bit of air, but 2-4 hours is the peak range for this one (but that's more than enough, right?). The fruit gets you right upfront, light mid-palate (which fills in after breathing a bit), then a dry, dusty tannic finish.

I could have warned you that the chocolate cake wouldn't work. Tannins + chocolate cause an extra drying sensation. There is a big debate about whether or not Cabernet & chocolate actually pair well together because of this. My opinion, people love chocolate and they love Cab... let them enjoy both together.

Thank you for the detailed review. I hope you and your friends all had a memorable evening because that's what this is all about.

EricKeating


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peterabbits wrote:

RATTAGE REPORT!

i'll follow this up later after the wine has had a little time to breathe, but couldn't wait to open the bottle as soon as i got home - first time being a labrat after all.... please go easy on me as i'm still relatively new to wine and am really trying to get into actually tasting and taking notes, etc...

i got the Merlot. i haven't had many merlot's lately so i don't have much to compare it to. right out of the bottle, this wine has a wonderful aroma, deep and rich, almost a little chocolate smelling, and i'm now getting a bit of tobacco smell. the color is a very nice deep purple. on tasting, i get red berries right away, and some tobacco later. this has a very smooth, long finish and is quite enjoyable. after i get back from my son's swim practice after this has had some time to breathe (couple hours) - i'll try it again to see how it differs.

thank you woot, and thank you Keating wines (and Eric)!

**UPDATE** - wine has smoothed out quite a bit, but i would not say is has mellowed any. the sense of tobacco has dropped in intensity somewhat, the fruit has opened up some. glad i went in for 2 on this package.

thanks again!



Nice description on the wine. Chocolate on the nose was a great observation. The Sonoma Cabernet that was blended in the Merlot is a big chocolatey wine. I pick up on that in the Merlot as well.

For all the wooters that purchased the 3-pack. The Merlot is still a baby, and was bottled only a few short months ago. During the first 3-6 months in bottle the wine changes the most (bottle shock). Although, I will say the Merlot has probably now passed that point, but barely. It might help you to understand why the wine changed so quickly.

From the get-go, I have thought this wine was dominated by the red berries that you picked up, especially on the palate. Somewhere between raspberries and cranberries. It's really something else.
There is a minerality that eminates from this wine, too. That I am guessing is where you got the tobacco.

Thank you for the nice description of the Merlot.
Great job, lab rats!

*do we have a Petite Sirah lab rat? If we do, please save a glass for the 2nd day and give us your impression.

klezman


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If the PS review comes back as seemingly pleasing to my tastes as the first two, you will have successfully crushed my SIWBM. Well done, WD and Eric.

And thank you labrats - excellent reports!

2013: 33 bottles. Last wine.woot: Diamond Ridge Cab Franc. Last split: Scott Harvey Barbera
2012: 91 bottles, 2011: 92 bottles, 2010: 74 bottles, 2009: 30 bottles, 2008: 3 bottles My CT

JOATMON


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k1avg wrote:

SCENE. Four unsuspecting souls, gathered in a small but surprisingly spacious Capitol Hill apartment. Little do they know - tonight, the MALBEC rides.



Oh, snap. Tinypic is blocked here.

Stupid GFOC

Juvie: 30+24+4; Sellout: 6+7+0
Rags: 3+2+3
Drunk: 69+94+15 wine, 20+29+4 non-wine
Rugrat: 0+0+0; Refunded: 2+3+1
(as of 2011-03-02)

Mrpopcorn


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Labrat Report:

Sorry upforont that I do not know how to access the Lab Report format.

I was excited to receive the Keating Petite Sirah. I was a little intimidated as I have little experience with this varietal - this was intensified knowing that Woot's own Petite Sirah was hoping to rat and would have been iminently more qualified.

First, this is a beautiful wine - both in the color and as it opens up it drinks nicely.

I first opened the bottle around 7:30pm last night; I poured small amounts into two glasses for me and my dinner companion. Immediately out of the bottle, I would say the flavor and the aroma are a little stiff. It is dry to the taste immediately and I could smell plum and blackberry as well as black pepper.

I ran back to my car to retrieve my venturi and returned to pour the majority of the bottle through the venturi into a decanter.

Immediately, the aromas were more intense - throuout the evening the plum and dark berries were always present and never overpowering. As the bottle opened up there was a deeper smell of the black pepper - very nice!

With only about 30 -40 minutes, the original pour had evolved significantly and the complexity of the wine came out and the fruit flavors emerged - never is the fruit overpowering at all - in fact the wine remained dry to the last drop with very nice balance.

After, about 45 minutes we poured the decanted wine and it was sublime. My dinner companion did not really enjoy this style on the first pour; by the time we were drinking the decanted wine she was raving about how nice the wine was - great texture, deep colors, and nice mouthfeel.

We then consumed the wine with marinated filets (grilled, seasoned, and cracked black pepper) accompanied by mushrooms and some goat cheese. The wine drank beautifully with the filet and the flavors together improved both the wine and the filets.

My only regret is that I didn't decant the wine long enough. I am anxious to receive my original order and I will decant and leave the wine for a couple of hours. This wine just kept improving throughout the night and it really is a wonderful bottle. I is a very rich, well balanced, dark, slightly dry even to the end. Very enjoyable!

I hope I have been helpful - In the future,I will probably leave the ratting to those of you who have a more sophisticated palate. I will tell you though, I wouldn't hesitate to buy this offer, and I am quite pleased that I am in for three.

John

wrowe


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In for 2, this is the exact 3-pack I've been waiting for. Thanks for the great rat reports.

richardhod


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k1avg wrote:

SCENE. Four unsuspecting souls, gathered in a small but surprisingly spacious Capitol Hill apartment. Little do they know - tonight, the MALBEC rides.

7:00pm. Heavy. This bottle is so heavy. What, did they carve it straight from the mountainside? I wonder how the grapes feel about that. Into the fridge for a bit, Mr. Keating.

7:15pm. Apple is to orange as Malbec is to ___? How am I to judge this sweet, sweet (free) nectar? Against a dark, young Syrah? A hefty Cab? A (gasp!) Rioja? Nay - only a brother Malbec will do. To the bodega!

7:30pm. Upon my return, with two embarrassingly inexpensive Argentinean Malbecs, it's time to begin. *pop* Ah, a solid beginning. Stop! Decanter time! The Malbec pours a deep, deep burgundy, a very...cultured...color. The sort of color you might buy a Buick in sixty years from now. Even the little bubbles have a dark reddish tint. Yeah, this would stain the heck out of my carpet. Must be careful.

The first word I have written down for the nose is "heavenly," and for some reason I underlined it twice. Right after opening, no less - a powerful scent of dusty earth (the mountains of Rockpile, perhaps?), dark fruits (dark arts?) of cherry and ripe plums, a light herbal component - almost menthol (sort of "Old World" like a Rioja), but not quite - and something else I can't put my finger on, a faint spiciness (perhaps what some snobbily call "cigar box"). Out of the bottle, this wine smells much older than it really is - on scent alone, it could almost pass as a decade-old Bordeaux (but yeah, probably not).

Oh, wait. Wine is for drinking! At this point, it was very astringent and closed, a bit plummy and earthy, but really needs a good one or two hours in the decanter. So...we wait.

8:30pm. From my notes, verbatim: "so much different!" With just one painful hour of waiting, the fruitiness in the nose came to the forefront, and on the palate the wine grew incredibly expansive, presenting a whole array of acidic fruits - plums, pomegranate, a hint of strawberry, maybe a little tart blackberry - and an interesting bit of minerality. The minerals are not so gritty (like the TLC Cab/Shiraz, which I love), but just...solid - like the difference between crumbly limestone and a clean-cut quartz crystal. There's something just very solid about this wine - perhaps it's the unshakable balance, though even after an hour it was still "rippling with tannins." (Who writes like that? And in longhand, no less?)

The finish, as advertised, is very long and very crisp - the flavor stays on your tongue for ages, but doesn't coat your mouth like many "big" wines, and there's no lingering jamminess or syrupiness at all. This, if my newfound wine snobbery does not fail me, signifies a very well-made wine (along with the "legs for days," as they say).

9:10pm. Time for a taste test! Opening the competitor wines, one immediately drops out of the running (the Aguaribay, with an odd rotten banana flavor that might be a fault - or may just be the fault of cheapness), but the Trapiche actually held its own, a little fuller on the palate than our hero Keating, but a bit jammier in the finish and not nearly as complex.

9:30pm. Anyone who tries to argue that evolution is just a theory has clearly never had this wine. Another hour of breathing under its belt, and it has changed its composure all over again - perfectly balancing fruit and acidity, and adding notes of tobacco, oak, and just a slight hint of pepperiness to the party. (Upon further reflection, I would later decide that it was this point at which the wine had "peaked," surely a useful bit of information for future consumers.)

9:35pm. Another sip, another flavor. This time it's something just ever so suggestively green - like a patch of good fairway, but maybe a little weedier, like crabgrass. But in a good way. It's the best crabgrass experience I've ever had.

9:45pm. My girlfriend arrives home and is quickly fed a half-glass of the good Keating juice. She cites plums and a licorice scent, and notes that the tannins (which, proudly, I taught her about) are noticeable but not overbearing. She is learning indeed.

10:10pm. The food is prepared and the guests arrive. The Keating stands guard in its decanter, prepared to do battle with the balsamic-marinated strip steaks, garlic mashed potatoes, and crispy green beans I deemed logical to neatly arrange on a plate. Glasses of Keating and Trapiche are dished out accordingly. Guest J claims he senses some "peppery notes" in the Keating while Guest K, though overall preferring the fuller body of the Trapiche (as is her personal preference), describes the Keating as more accessible and straightforward - the flavors of the Keating are all much clearer and the overall profile is more complex. (Interestingly, I note snidely to myself, this seems a bit backward from the good Mr. Keating's statements earlier, but I can't say I disagree - perhaps the Trapiche is simply unusually full-bodied for an Argentine).

Next to the acidity of the steaks, the creaminess of the potatoes, and the crunchiness of the green beans, though, the Keating is, bar none, the better food wine - its flavors are present but not overpowering, and the long, crisp finish is simply sublime with food involved, handling every aspect of the meal with aplomb and quickly clearing the palate for the next bite.

11:00pm. Dinner complete, we tear into a chocolate cake - the wine is just a bit too acidic and light to go well here; this is where you'd want a little jamminess, I think - and decide, whimsically, to light up a hookah, something I haven't done in ages. The Malbec provides a perfect companion to our jasmine-flavored hookah, again showing stupendous balance between fruit, acidity, and body.

1:30am. As we clean up the simply awful mess this wine inspired and I sit to jot my thoughts away in Notepad with reckless abandon, there is barely one glass left, and it seems to be almost fading away a bit. The fruit has mostly taken over, and the spiciness, pepper, and other odd complex nuggets have mostly disappeared.

Conclusions? Why, yes, I've some. The Malbec - it is good, bordering on great. My sincerest applause to the talented and daring Mr. Keating, and most gracious thanks to WineDavid and the whole Wine.Woot motley crew. Asked to play Robert Parker for a night, I would probably give it a 91 or 92 (and will do so on CT). The balance is simply incredible - the fruit, spice notes, acidity, and body combine to make this wine taste incredibly composed throughout the night. The tannins were a little rough, but then, we're still a year away from the beginning of Mr. Keating's stated window. Right now, though, you're going to get the best of wine with 1-4 hours of decanting, and accompanying a substantial meal. It's pretty good on its own, too, but I suspect one would grow weary of the tannins after a full glass or so by itself.

This the first American Malbec I've had (and frankly I had no idea anyone even grew Malbec in America before yesterday), but it almost certainly sets an impossible bar for any others, and gives even the most expensive South American versions a run for their money. Against the...ahem, inexpensive...comparison wines I provided - there was simply no contest against the Aguaribay (but that's saying little - most of that will probably go down the drain) and, in my opinion, the Keating easily bested the Trapiche through its balance and complexity (demonstrating, I think, the greater amount of attention readily paid to its production). Price-wise, the Trapiche cost me $14, while the Keating here is $17-18 (depending on your level of commitment), and the difference is easily worth the extra cash. However, I wouldn't really see myself buying the Keating off the shelf at $42 - but if I would, I wouldn't really need Wine.Woot, now would I?



k1avg your writing style is as excellent as your passion for understanding wine in detail! I hope you use your writing skills a lot in the suture, which undoubtedly demostrates your smart relaxed persoinality! any decent-length post you make is usually informative, and at least a little entertaining.

keep it up! You're setting a high standard for us ...

Ah yes. Bugger. I cant resist: good versions of varietals I have not enough of. Though I have too much wine. Ha. In for 3!

klezman


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klezman wrote:If the PS review comes back as seemingly pleasing to my tastes as the first two, you will have successfully crushed my SIWBM. Well done, WD and Eric.

And thank you labrats - excellent reports!



Damn. Great varietals + great descriptions + great prices = wallet yelling at me. Only question is whether to go in for multiple. I'll decide on Saturday, after the damage/winnings from Sonoma trip is assessed, assuming the bounce doesn't start before then.

2013: 33 bottles. Last wine.woot: Diamond Ridge Cab Franc. Last split: Scott Harvey Barbera
2012: 91 bottles, 2011: 92 bottles, 2010: 74 bottles, 2009: 30 bottles, 2008: 3 bottles My CT

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Nice review, MrPopcorn.

I am not surprised by your initial reaction of the wine being stiff upon opening. I mention 'bottle shock' earlier, which is the adjustment wine makes from barrel to bottle. The effect is almost always different, but the one common factor is the wine taste dissimilar to how it did in the barrel just before bottling. The Petite Sirah had the longest bottle shock (about 9 months). The effect was an extreme tightness (or stiffness as you described). But then hours later, or the next day, it tasted wonderfully. I love seeing this in a wine because it is a sign that the wine will have the stamina to last a long, long time.

I am glad you got to watch the wine evolve over a few hours. Out of all 3 wines in the woot offer, this should be the best ager.

Great job, rats!

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cortot20 wrote:I usually get the shipping notification within 5 days of the end if the sale. If you buy this you should receive your notice by COB next Friday the 28th. And receive your wine the following Tuesday or Wednesday.
I would say that most of my wine purchases fit into this time frame.



It's not a bug, it's a feature, WD isn't just offering to sell you wine, he's offering to cellar it for you. By the time you get it, it's ready to drink!

I'm putting WD's kids through college

Drunk Woot - 130 | Tacky Woot - 34 | Nevernude Woot - 4 | Mainstream Woot - 8 | Breeder Woot - 0

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k1avg wrote:

SCENE. Four unsuspecting souls, gathered in a small but surprisingly spacious Capitol Hill apartment. Little do they know - tonight, the MALBEC rides.



Dear Woot:

Please have k1avg rat everything, ever.

Love,
Phil

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EricKeating wrote:
For all the wooters that purchased the 3-pack. The Merlot is still a baby, and was bottled only a few short months ago. During the first 3-6 months in bottle the wine changes the most (bottle shock). Although, I will say the Merlot has probably now passed that point, but barely. It might help you to understand why the wine changed so quickly.



I hadn't realized these were such young bottlings. This begs the question - given that I'm a "buy now drink now" sort of wine buyer, what's the minimum amount of time I should let these guys sit on the rack before I pop them?

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andyduncan wrote:It's not a bug, it's a feature, WD isn't just offering to sell you wine, he's offering to cellar it for you. By the time you get it, it's ready to drink!



here here !

k1avg


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EricKeating wrote:*snip*

Thank you for the detailed review. I hope you and your friends all had a memorable evening because that's what this is all about.



Working backwards through your post - yes, we absolutely had an incredible evening; the confluence of good wine, good food, and good company never fails to produce great memories. And you bring up a good point, which I've said before and will tirelessly flog until my dying day - the magic of wine is in the experience as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I certainly enjoy diligently deconstructing a good wine, analyzing what makes it tick, finding all the little gems and surprises hidden deep within in, but most of the time, I just want to drink a good wine and relax. I don't want to think about cigar boxes or tannins or minerals; I'd rather take a sip, think "yeah, that's good," and go back to reading my book, smoking a hookah, or waterskiing. I'm sure that I'm preaching to the choir here, but the moral of the story is simply that wine drinkers - and wine itself - should never take themselves too seriously. [Steps off soapbox.]

On the cake issue, I think part of the problem is that our cake last night was a grocery store cake heavy on refined sugar and the glossy sort of frosting you can nearly see your reflection in. Really nothing would go well with that monstrosity except a glass of milk. Cakes that are more about, well, cake (say, a well-made German chocolate) comport a little better with good red wine, or at least heavy, jammy cabs (which, as you note, some people swear by). Frankly, this Malbec isn't really suited to any sort of sweet dessert. I think it would much prefer a middle-aged Gouda or even a mild cigar. Luckily, I have two more bottles on the way with which to test my theories.

Regarding decanting, my decanter came with a little Vinturi-wannabe funnel, which possibly sped up the process a bit - in any case, though, this wine absolutely must be decanted for at least an hour before it is ready to drink. I thought it peaked between the two- and three-hour marks, though perhaps without the funneling action it will run a bit later. And to be sure, it certainly wasn't bad after six hours - not by a long shot - but it was clearly already shutting down. An open bottle certainly wouldn't hold up overnight.

Thank you for your kind words. Perhaps one day soon I'll show up in your tasting room and we can see if we agree so well on some of your other wines.

You nailed it on the Trapiche - it took nearly no time at all out of the bottle to open up, and was surely designed that way - I doubt many of the folks who buy it even own a decanter. Your RS diagnosis is deadly accurate too - it was leggier than your wine and showed it with almost no delay after a swirl (whereas I counted more than fifteen seconds for the Keating to show its legs - the legs picture above was taken at least thirty seconds after I set the glass down). Regardless, it way overperformed for its price and gave the Keating a good fight. I'd happily drink either given the opportunity (and did!), but at the end of the night, the difference in craftsmanship and care was clearly evident.

So, with that, thank you again for the opportunity to try this masterpiece (and before everyone else, ha!). I'm really looking forward to seeing what delicious concoctions you managed to create with your PS and Merlot.

--
Lawyer (of sorts) by day. Drinker of fine wines, homebrewer of fine beers, connoisseur of fine Scotches by night.
The current holdings.

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PhilSandifer wrote:I hadn't realized these were such young bottlings. This begs the question - given that I'm a "buy now drink now" sort of wine buyer, what's the minimum amount of time I should let these guys sit on the rack before I pop them?


The Merlot will benefit greatly from just a few months on the rack. The others are good to go. The Petite Sirah will just need a bit of air to soften up.

k1avg


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richardhod wrote:k1avg your writing style is as excellent as your passion for understanding wine in detail! I hope you use your writing skills a lot in the suture, which undoubtedly demostrates your smart relaxed persoinality! any decent-length post you make is usually informative, and at least a little entertaining.

keep it up! You're setting a high standard for us ...



My indecent-length posts, on the other hand...

Seriously, though, thanks.

--
Lawyer (of sorts) by day. Drinker of fine wines, homebrewer of fine beers, connoisseur of fine Scotches by night.
The current holdings.

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PhilSandifer wrote:Dear Woot:

Please have k1avg rat everything, ever.

Love,
Phil



No No admittedly this was one of the great rats I have ever had the pleasure to read but occasionally I enjoy reading the "smelled like cat pee and did not go with my burger king meal"
rat. That is the diversity of Woot!

Cheers!

And yes a great rat it was.

What contemptible scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch? ~ W. C. Fields

“Freedom is something that dies unless it's used” Hunter S Thompson




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Where's jwhite and his breakdowns on the savings of this offer(and the past several offers)?
His posts are usually frequent, and are among the real "quality posts".
PS- Thanks rats... great work. I might be in for a couple sets.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Neil Peart(of Rush)

richardhod


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EricKeating wrote:Nice review, MrPopcorn.

I am not surprised by your initial reaction of the wine being stiff upon opening. I mention 'bottle shock' earlier, which is the adjustment wine makes from barrel to bottle. The effect is almost always different, but the one common factor is the wine taste dissimilar to how it did in the barrel just before bottling. The Petite Sirah had the longest bottle shock (about 9 months). The effect was an extreme tightness (or stiffness as you described). But then hours later, or the next day, it tasted wonderfully. I love seeing this in a wine because it is a sign that the wine will have the stamina to last a long, long time.

I am glad you got to watch the wine evolve over a few hours. Out of all 3 wines in the woot offer, this should be the best ager.

Great job, rats!



how does bottleshock work, BTW?

And it looks like I have to buy your neighbours' wine, the Kunde too, a I'm low on quality Cab. How well do you know them? Share info etc with them?

I'm on a question roll this week: Merlot. What does it take to make a good one, and what are we lookig for? Very few on woot too AFAIR. I have very little, as I'm not sure since Sideways maligned it that there are as many made.

richardhod


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psmurf wrote:Where's jwhite and his breakdowns on the savings of this offer(and the past several offers)?
His posts are usually frequent, and are among the real "quality posts".
PS- Thanks rats... great work. I might be in for a couple sets.



I think someone did that first, without the graphs. I think it's 58% from retail, or something similar. See p1 :D

richardhod


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k1avg wrote:Working backwards through your post - yes, we absolutely had an incredible evening; the confluence of good wine, good food, and good company never fails to produce great memories. And you bring up a good point, which I've said before and will tirelessly flog until my dying day - the magic of wine is in the experience as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I certainly enjoy diligently deconstructing a good wine, analyzing what makes it tick, finding all the little gems and surprises hidden deep within in, but most of the time, I just want to drink a good wine and relax. I don't want to think about cigar boxes or tannins or minerals; I'd rather take a sip, think "yeah, that's good," and go back to reading my book, smoking a hookah, or waterskiing. I'm sure that I'm preaching to the choir here, but the moral of the story is simply that wine drinkers - and wine itself - should never take themselves too seriously. [Steps off soapbox.]

On the cake issue, I think part of the problem is that our cake last night was a grocery store cake heavy on refined sugar and the glossy sort of frosting you can nearly see your reflection in. Really nothing would go well with that monstrosity except a glass of milk. Cakes that are more about, well, cake (say, a well-made German chocolate) comport a little better with good red wine, or at least heavy, jammy cabs (which, as you note, some people swear by). Frankly, this Malbec isn't really suited to any sort of sweet dessert. I think it would much prefer a middle-aged Gouda or even a mild cigar. Luckily, I have two more bottles on the way with which to test my theories.

Regarding decanting, my decanter came with a little Vinturi-wannabe funnel, which possibly sped up the process a bit - in any case, though, this wine absolutely must be decanted for at least an hour before it is ready to drink. I thought it peaked between the two- and three-hour marks, though perhaps without the funneling action it will run a bit later. And to be sure, it certainly wasn't bad after six hours - not by a long shot - but it was clearly already shutting down. An open bottle certainly wouldn't hold up overnight.

Thank you for your kind words. Perhaps one day soon I'll show up in your tasting room and we can see if we agree so well on some of your other wines.

You nailed it on the Trapiche - it took nearly no time at all out of the bottle to open up, and was surely designed that way - I doubt many of the folks who buy it even own a decanter. Your RS diagnosis is deadly accurate too - it was leggier than your wine and showed it with almost no delay after a swirl (whereas I counted more than fifteen seconds for the Keating to show its legs - the legs picture above was taken at least thirty seconds after I set the glass down). Regardless, it way overperformed for its price and gave the Keating a good fight. I'd happily drink either given the opportunity (and did!), but at the end of the night, the difference in craftsmanship and care was clearly evident.

So, with that, thank you again for the opportunity to try this masterpiece (and before everyone else, ha!). I'm really looking forward to seeing what delicious concoctions you managed to create with your PS and Merlot.



K1, your favourite scotches? And you know a good discount source, apart from Heathrow airport, and the (quality but expensive) Malt Whisky Society?