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CommunityWoot WinesMeridian Red - Four Pack

andyduncan

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apw2123 wrote:First glass I find that it is a bit metallic with fruit on the end.

Just read the front page description:

this Syrah offers leather and cedar spice in the nose.

Cedar, that's what we were tasting, I always call that one metallic, but I think "Cedar" is probably a closer descriptor. It seemed to become less prominent, however, as it opened up.

I refuse, however, to call it "leather". It's poo. Wonderful poo.

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andyduncan

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woopdedoo wrote:I didn't know RPM had a dog ...


He does, and it gets no kibble until it properly identifies the appellation and vintage of that evening's wine.

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rpm

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andyduncan wrote:(and yes, RPM, we tasted before we ate, you dogmatic curmudgeon).


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andyduncan

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Actually, that brings up an interesting idea: I wonder if you could train dogs to sniff out brett in barrels at levels that humans can't yet discern? Got to be a market for that somewhere.

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gcdyersb

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andyduncan wrote:Actually, that brings up an interesting idea: I wonder if you could train dogs to sniff out brett in barrels at levels that humans can't yet discern? Got to be a market for that somewhere.


I think there are TCA sniffing dogs, actually. Don't remember where I read it, though.

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gcdyersb

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andyduncan wrote:Cedar, that's what we were tasting, I always call that one metallic, but I think "Cedar" is probably a closer descriptor. It seemed to become less prominent, however, as it opened up.

I refuse, however, to call it "leather". It's poo. Wonderful poo.


Isn't metallic flavor occasionally associated with Brett? Poo/leather usually is. Syrah is usually high pH, and probably doubly so at 27 Brix.

People have different Brett thresholds, so one man's dung pile might be another's sweaty horse blanket.

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10centpower

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JudyL1118

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This is totally a quality post! Proof that children can be raised to be "color-blind".

Too funny! My 7th grade son was filling out a survey today in school, when he reached the question asking for "race". He had no idea what the question meant, so he called the teacher over for help. She was puzzled, tried to explain what the question meant - he said he didn't know how to answer because his mom said we are "Heinz 57".

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bobhaislip wrote:Does anyone know anything about the vinyard sites listed (Camatta Hills-Syrah and Algunas Dias Vineyard, Camatta Hills- Sangio)? Age of vines, other wineries using the same source etc. That would help me in my decision. The quantity produced shows promise-some winemakers that produce a lot of "every day quaffers" like to have "fun" with the small lot, limited release stuff and you can really find some unknown gems if you take the chance.

Undecided.

Some info on the vineyards...

Camatta Hills
Camatta Hills is a 600-acre vineyard planted across rolling hills near the town of Paso Robles on California's central coast. The vineyard is named for the decomposed limestone "Camatta" soil which runs down the center of the property and covers approximately 1/3 of the land. This soil is prized for producing small berries with great concentration of flavors and fine, dusty, silky tannins. The remainder of the vineyard is comprised of shallow clay soils overlaid with sand which drive roots horizontally to look for water. The stress put on these vines results in grapes that add a ripe, rounded tannin structure and depth of color to the finished wine.

In addition to unique soil, Camatta Hills Vineyard is also blessed with an ideal climate. Located in a valley protected by the Cuesta Ridge coastal range to the west, it enjoys warm to hot daytime temperatures offset by cooling Pacific Ocean breezes and maritime fog at night. This allows for a even ripening of the intensely-flavored fruit.

Algunas Dias
The Ortman Family winery sources Sangiovese from this vineyard. Here is their take on Algunas Dias.
Located in rugged Ranchita Canyon northeast of Paso Robles, Algunas Dias Vineyard occupies a 20-degree southeast-facing slope composed primarily of shallow, low-nutrient Arbuckle shale. It lies above the fogline at an altitude of 1,000 feet, a comparable elevation to Chianti Classico. This vineyard’s combination of consistent sun exposure and challenging soils encourages excellent flavor and structural development. The clusters are small and intensely flavored, with vivid acidity that ensures true Sangiovese character.

Hope this helps.

airjesse123

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gcdyersb wrote:Isn't metallic flavor occasionally associated with Brett? Poo/leather usually is. Syrah is usually high pH, and probably doubly so at 27 Brix.

People have different Brett thresholds, so one man's dung pile might be another's sweaty horse blanket.


Never heard of metallic being associated with Brettanomyces; but barnyard/poo smell is.

gcdyersb wrote:I think there are TCA sniffing dogs, actually. Don't remember where I read it, though.


Most winemakers and their staff are pretty good at detecting TCA in cork. We were trained to do this in our winemaking laboratory and became pretty good at it.

woopdedoo

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JudyL1118 wrote:This is totally a quality post! Proof that children can be raised to be "color-blind".

Too funny! My 7th grade son was filling out a survey today in school, when he reached the question asking for "race". He had no idea what the question meant, so he called the teacher over for help. She was puzzled, tried to explain what the question meant - he said he didn't know how to answer because his mom said we are "Heinz 57".


Whenever I see that on a form, I think "Isn't everyone filling out this form from the human race?"

Coyoty

You lost me at "barnyard poo" and "sweaty horse blanket". I can't imagine those being favorable descriptions of a wine.

gijose

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Coyoty wrote:You lost me at "barnyard poo" and "sweaty horse blanket". I can't imagine those being favorable descriptions of a wine.


Ah but they absolutely are!

doctorwolfenstein

As much as I am ignorant to the art of wine tasting (albeit I easily qualify for title of "wino"), I'll have to agree with Coyoty on this one. That being said, I'm in for 1. I am actually looking forward to trying to single out the "poo" flavor. Damn you woot! My new goal in life is to become a semi-elite purple member!!!

gcdyersb

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Coyoty wrote:You lost me at "barnyard poo" and "sweaty horse blanket". I can't imagine those being favorable descriptions of a wine.


Usually, they aren't. But in small amounts they can be earthy, funky or leathery. I appreciate the occasional stinky farmyard wine, though. It's an acquired taste along the lines of hoppy beer or washed rind (now that's some stench!) cheeses.

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kylemittskus

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woopdedoo wrote:Whenever I see that on a form, I think "Isn't everyone filling out this form from the human race?"


Honest to God, I have been telling my students to check other and write either "human" or "alien." One would be poignant and the other just plain funny.

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sgoman5674

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airjesse123 wrote:Also keep in mind that Gelatin is often used as a fining agent, which makes it harder to produce excellent quality Kosher wine, much to my aunt's dismay!


So I asked about gelatin being used as a fining agent. The Rabbi I asked, had never heard of gelatin being used as a fining agent for wine. He had heard of it being used for apple juice and that the apple juice was kosher.

JLessard

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sgoman5674 wrote:So I asked about gelatin being used as a fining agent. The Rabbi I asked, had never heard of gelatin being used as a fining agent for wine. He had heard of it being used for apple juice and that the apple juice was kosher.


http://www.gelatin.co.za/fining.htm

And gelatin and kosher...

http://www.ehow.com/about_4617146_what-kosher-gelatin.html
http://www.oukosher.org/index.php/common/article/5467

shugie14

Got the bottles yesterday and decided to have the Sangiovese with some pasta and red sauce. I like to add chili flakes to add some heat to my red sauce.

I had the wine with 2 others (immediately out of the bottle, I'm not a patient man), and both remarked about how much they enjoyed it. I had a bit of a head cold at the time, so I'm sure I missed some flavors, but the wine was tasty. It went down smoothly, not too much heat even right out of the bottle. The flavor is very fruit based, a bit of a blueberry/ current blend to me. I was the only person who noticed a slight bit of toffee flavor that I caught towards the back of my tongue. The flavor profile was great before the meal, and stood up well during the meal.

If this deal comes up again, I will buy in an instant. Both friends checked to make sure I had more bottles left.