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Can I have this shipped to Alabama?

Darn, they wont ship this to my state...

this doesn't look like a bad deal, and I'm curious about the coffee, but after paying less for 5 bags of Thanksgiving Coffee over the summer, I don't think I can pull the trigger on this one. I wouldn't even know what to do with the decaf coffee.

Five bags of coffee from Jamaica and not a hint of Blue Mountain? Why the frown?

waacodemon wrote:45 bucks on coffee... 99cents at the Holiday gas station... lol.. im a college student.. as much as I love coffee, just cant afford this, as much as I really wanna!

You realize it only takes 2 Tbsp of beans to make that 99 cent cup of coffee from the gas station, right? Well let's be generous and assume you're having at least a 16oz cup, so we'll go for 5 Tbsp of beans per cup assuming they use the recommended amount (and they usually go less to lower their own costs). And probably lower quality beans at that.

These are what, 12oz bags? So figure on that coming out to oh, let's say about 6 cups of beans per bag, which translates to 96 tablespoons. So that's ~19 16oz servings per bag (does that sound about right? 50 6oz cups per bag? 5 full 10-cup pots of coffee?). So for equality, we're looking at 19 "gas station" servings. There's 5 bags in this offer, bringing us up to 96 servings.

So you can pay $50 (w/shipping) for 96 16oz servings of quality coffee that you take a little time to make yourself.

Or you can pay $96 for the 96 cups of cheap mass-market coffee you get from your gas station.

inkwench wrote:Darn.

Just this month I laid out the cash ($300!) for a Capresso burr-mill auto grind 'n' brew (love it, for those who are in the market) and bought a lot of local roasted coffee for it.

But then I'm a coffee snob.

I assume you know what you're talking about, which I don't! Any advice on burr-mill grinders?
For those of us on a budget, how bad/adequate is the Cuisinart DBM8 Supreme Grind Automatic Burr Coffee Grinder I see at Sam's Club? Is it just the motor quality? For a $260 price differential, there must be something major involved.

What's the scoop? (groan).

rpm wrote:Though I'm not in the business, I've been interested in good coffee long enough to know the importance of freshness - both after roasting and (of course) grinding (with a burr grinder for the fastidious).

For 30 years or so, I drank a light roast Jamaica Blue Mountain almost exclusively, but it's become prohibitively expensive and my provider (I was buying a regular wholesale order and fencing it to friends to get the benefit of the savings....) darkened the roast a few years ago when customer demand shifted to darker roasts. For a while, they custom roasted lighter for me, but eventually they said it wasn't cost effective anymore.... sigh. I miss the monthly shipments. I think that if coffee is vacuum packed and kept cool, you can go almost a month before flavor loss is significant, as long (as you suggest) it's shipped the day (or the day after...) it's roasted. My supplier used to ship the day after.

If you REALLY want good coffee roasted to your specs, just roast your own! It's not that tough, the green coffee beans store a long time ( some say 6 months, some say 2 years! ), and the procedure is not at all time consuming or difficult. A good home roaster is about the size of a toaster oven, runs off 110 V AC and roasts a 1/2 lb batch in about 20 min. I've had a few, but I dearly love my current one, a Behmor. Read more about roasters, roasting and green beans at SweetMarias.com , roastmasters.com , or coffeegeek.com . There is NOTHING like fresh coffee or espresso in the morning---you won't go back to buying roasted beans once you try it!

cole103 wrote:If you REALLY want good coffee roasted to your specs, just roast your own! It's not that tough, the green coffee beans store a long time ( some say 6 months, some say 2 years! ), and the procedure is not at all time consuming or difficult. A good home roaster is about the size of a toaster oven, runs off 110 V AC and roasts a 1/2 lb batch in about 20 min. I've had a few, but I dearly love my current one, a Behmor. Read more about roasters, roasting and green beans at SweetMarias.com , roastmasters.com , or coffeegeek.com . There is NOTHING like fresh coffee or espresso in the morning---you won't go back to buying roasted beans once you try it!

Okay, where do you get green coffee beans? I've looked at several specialty stores around here, WI, and found nothing. I lived with a family in Bosnia a few years back and they showed me how to roast beans in their wood fire oven on a baking sheet. The coffee was sooo good. They prepared it Turkish style. Umm, I wish I had some right now.

tomatillo wrote:I assume you know what you're talking about, which I don't! Any advice on burr-mill grinders?
For those of us on a budget, how bad/adequate is the Cuisinart DBM8 Supreme Grind Automatic Burr Coffee Grinder I see at Sam's Club? Is it just the motor quality? For a $260 price differential, there must be something major involved.

What's the scoop? (groan).

Here is the 3 star Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DBM-8-Supreme-Grind-Automatic/dp/B00018RRRK
Sounds like the motors go out after a year and people don't like the static that spritzes coffee grounds around (plastic hopper). But $40 isn't bad.....
Actually, you only need a really high end grinder if you're doing espresso. I still occasionally use a blade grinder for my French press stuff, and I've got a $275 Rancillio Rocky sitting on my counter to grind my espresso. Drip, French press and perk coffees are pretty forgiving as far as grind consistency, espresso is EXTREMELY picky, even a change in humidity can mean an adjustment in fineness of grind (didn't believe it till I saw it myself).

mikda999 wrote:Okay, where do you get green coffee beans? I've looked at several specialty stores around here, WI, and found nothing. I lived with a family in Bosnia a few years back and they showed me how to roast beans in their wood fire oven on a baking sheet. The coffee was sooo good. They prepared it Turkish style. Umm, I wish I had some right now.

Sweetmarias.com , Roastmasters.com are both good for beans---in the $4-5/lb range.
Would love to try the Turkish style, but haven't bought an ibrik yet.

I keep mine in the trunk of my car. It keeps the dogs from finding my stash.

...come on, am i the first to see the correlation here?

Maybe, if it wasn't for the decaf... The price seems good, but I could just give away the decaf, but the other blends spook me.

AH MON, let me think about it and read some more reviews.

Until then,

Pass me over a hit, MON!

themostrighteous wrote:i, for one, would be in for 3 if this were voodoodoodoo coffee. totally. i could then brew it in a pot with my secret stash of voodoodoodoo wine to increase its voodoodoodooness. i could then sip this stimulant-depressant voodoodoodoo power combo while dancing naked in my backyard at the next new moon (*). i could - wait, the possibilities are endless! :P

(*) yeah, i know, it's the full moon that's called for, but then my neighbors could actually see me, and i don't want to give anyone a heartattack / get arrested.

Plus you wont' have the coffee by tomorrow

cole103 wrote:Sweetmarias.com , Roastmasters.com are both good for beans---in the $4-5/lb range.
Would love to try the Turkish style, but haven't bought an ibrik yet.

Evidently the family we stayed with/rented from was either really poor or the area we were at just did coffee different. They all used the smallest sauce pan they had. LOL! I totally forgot about the ibrik. Thanks for the links. I'm ordering some today! I never would have thought to buy my beans online. Too funny!

reservoird wrote:Five bags of coffee from Jamaica and not a hint of Blue Mountain? Why the frown?

Actually (and curiously), it's not clear that any of the coffee is from Jamaica, let alone from the designated Blue Mountain region. One of the coffees is described as Ethiopian. And, to be fair, at these sorts of prices - dear though they are - there is no way this coffee is likely to be Jamaican, let alone Blue Mountain. In fact, from this description and from their own website, it's not even clear that the beans (other than the Ethiopian Yirgacheffe) are Arabica rather than Robusta. Usually, if a blend is 100% Arabica, the vendor will put that on the label.

While I'm not in the business as is MonkeyWithACold, I've been into coffee a long time and am always interested in the quality and source of the beans. I've drunk a lot of Jamaican coffee over the years, Blue Mountain (and a lot of what's sold as Blue Mountain is fake, or used to be....), High Mountain Peaberry, and other Jamaican blends.

I prefer lighter roasts (I guess I want the caffeine....) and find the vast majority of the stuff sold as "gourmet" coffee to be of a quality hardly higher (and often lower) than that of the premium commercial roasters like Green Mountain or Capricorn. I could never stand Starbucks or Peet's, especially their penchant for burning the beans.

sgoman5674 wrote:Hey! That's my line.

FYI, both coffee and tea do not need a hekture unless there is flavor added. As far as I can tell, the beans are just roasted differently. I will ask a rabbi on the bus this morning and I will post later.

Edit: This coffee might not have hashgacha, but it is kosher without it. The roasting has no effect on kashrus.

thanks

tomatillo wrote:I assume you know what you're talking about, which I don't! Any advice on burr-mill grinders?
For those of us on a budget, how bad/adequate is the Cuisinart DBM8 Supreme Grind Automatic Burr Coffee Grinder I see at Sam's Club? Is it just the motor quality? For a $260 price differential, there must be something major involved.

What's the scoop? (groan).

I bought some locally roasted coffee and this grinder from Costco for my mother last Christmas as an upgrade from her daily Folger's tin. It's been working great so far and she's using it daily (or maybe every other day). I have a cheapie Krups which I've had for three or so years and it's chugging along just fine. I'm sure they're not for the high-end crowd but for someone making espresso on a budget it's great.

SpkrBox850 wrote:Is this Fair Trade coffee?

you buying the coffee makes it fair trade, since you are getting it from the source

tomatillo wrote:I assume you know what you're talking about, which I don't! Any advice on burr-mill grinders?
For those of us on a budget, how bad/adequate is the Cuisinart DBM8 Supreme Grind Automatic Burr Coffee Grinder I see at Sam's Club? Is it just the motor quality? For a $260 price differential, there must be something major involved.

What's the scoop? (groan).

savana005 wrote:Can I have this shipped to Alabama?

Yes. We ship to every state in the US and Canada and most countries around the world.

dansth wrote:Darn, they wont ship this to my state...

Which state don't we ship to? We'd love to be able to get you coffee ASAP and help you in anyway possible.

hierophanta wrote:you buying the coffee makes it fair trade, since you are getting it from the source

No. We're buying it from a company who gets it from the source or from another company that does.

marleycoffeeguy wrote:Which state don't we ship to? We'd love to be able to get you coffee ASAP and help you in anyway possible.

The state of Dyspepsia?

Ever since I converted to Keurig k-cups about 6 months ago, I haven't busted out the grinder and drip maker once. Who would have thunk it... not me that's for sure.

themostrighteous wrote:i, for one, would be in for 3 if this were voodoodoodoo coffee. totally. i could then brew it in a pot with my secret stash of voodoodoodoo wine to increase its voodoodoodooness. i could then sip this stimulant-depressant voodoodoodoo power combo while dancing naked in my backyard at the next new moon (*). i could - wait, the possibilities are endless! :P

(*) yeah, i know, it's the full moon that's called for, but then my neighbors could actually see me, and i don't want to give anyone a heartattack / get arrested.

So basically, next new moon, party at the Righteous house!

It's on!

mshilko wrote:Ever since I converted to Keurig k-cups about 6 months ago, I haven't busted out the grinder and drip maker once. Who would have thunk it... not me that's for sure.

I have had a Keurig machine for a couple of years, which I have mostly used at the office. It is certainly convenient. You can make fairly decent tasting coffee with Keurig, though not good coffee. The machine I had at my old office (my current office has its own) is now at home. As a matter of convenience, we occasionally use it when we don't want more than a cup and don't have the time to really savor a good cup of coffee. Coffee in the little cups is not as fresh as what we grind ourselves, naturally, and is often not the same quality to begin with. Even comparing some high quality commercial blends available both in bean and Keurig cup format, the bean form is noticeably superior. But, the Keurig does a better job than most office single serving alternatives and at around $0.45/cup is not outrageously expensive for what it is.

rpm wrote:I prefer lighter roasts (I guess I want the caffeine....)
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I could never stand Starbucks or Peet's, especially their penchant for burning the beans.

I don't think you prefer lighter roasts because you want the caffeine, lighter roasts simply taste better. Dark roasting is for marginal/substandard beans, imho. Roasting a coffee dark is akin to serving a white wine ice cold. It makes it palatable and masks imperfections.

FWIW, I worked in a coffee shop that roasted it's own green beans in house. My experience with Blue Mountain coffee was that it was almost too smooth for making drip coffee, but made a sublime espresso. And yes, it was roasted "full city", the lightest roast for the best beans.

MonkeyWithACold wrote:Eh, I don't want to be all snobby here, but it IS wine.woot.

Like you said it is wine.woot.com not whine.woot.com.... hmm this isn't wine but they do often have other products, of higher quality food/beverage/things to go with the wine environment... possibly to cater to the socially elite, or those who think they are.

djbrownmd wrote:Plus, you're on wine woot, where we regularly pay premium dollar for fermented grape juice ; )

Aroo????? If you pay attention to Jwhite's spreadsheets, we average at least 30% savings on the wine offers. More if you get more than one set.

Hardly premium dollar ....

cole103 wrote:Here is the 3 star Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DBM-8-Supreme-Grind-Automatic/dp/B00018RRRK
Sounds like the motors go out after a year and people don't like the static that spritzes coffee grounds around (plastic hopper). But $40 isn't bad.....
Actually, you only need a really high end grinder if you're doing espresso. I still occasionally use a blade grinder for my French press stuff, and I've got a $275 Rancillio Rocky sitting on my counter to grind my espresso. Drip, French press and perk coffees are pretty forgiving as far as grind consistency, espresso is EXTREMELY picky, even a change in humidity can mean an adjustment in fineness of grind (didn't believe it till I saw it myself).

Agree on grinders - I've got Ranchilio Rocky which use to be for my espresso, now I've got a Mazzer Mini and another espresso machine. Nevertheless, for drip, french a good grinder is pretty important if you are desiring the best you can get from good beans. A coffee shop owner recently mentioned this one - KitchenAid Pro Line Burr Coffee Grinder - Nickel Pearl ($159 at Amazon). I I didn't have Rocky I would entertain the thought of trying. Bottom line, should use a burr grinder over a blade grinder.

cole103 wrote:Sweetmarias.com , Roastmasters.com are both good for beans---in the $4-5/lb range.
Would love to try the Turkish style, but haven't bought an ibrik yet.

Another vote for Sweet Maria's where I've been dealing with for many years. Largest purchase was my HotTop Roaster. They are good people to deal with even though you hear many complaints about the high prices. I've not been bothered by that as I realize the goods are coming from CA to FL and they really are a phone call away and do answer the phone.
As far as Marley coffee - no idea but won't be purchasing for the simple fact I have enough coffee and purchased the Thanksgiving 5 lbs. awhile back. There was not a bag I really enjoyed ...using for ice coffee where I don't notice what I'll refer to as 'my dislike".

SmilingBoognish wrote:I don't think you prefer lighter roasts because you want the caffeine, lighter roasts simply taste better. Dark roasting is for marginal/substandard beans, imho. Roasting a coffee dark is akin to serving a white wine ice cold. It makes it palatable and masks imperfections.

FWIW, I worked in a coffee shop that roasted it's own green beans in house. My experience with Blue Mountain coffee was that it was almost too smooth for making drip coffee, but made a sublime espresso. And yes, it was roasted "full city", the lightest roast for the best beans.

I was being facetious, I have always preferred the flavor of lighter roasts, with limited exceptions: those being (1) certain 'Viennese' blends that approximate the kleine mocha one gets in Vienna (Capricorn used to have one some 30 years ago that was superb when fresh, but I think it's changed somewhere along the line into something merely decent), and (2) certain Italian-style roasts for espresso. My grandfather used to have a private blend made for him espresso roasted by Freed Teller & Freed when they were on Polk Street in SF, but it hasn't been available since the mid-1960s.

MarkDaSpark wrote:Aroo????? If you pay attention to Jwhite's spreadsheets, we average at least 30% savings on the wine offers. More if you get more than one set.

Hardly premium dollar ....

I think he meant we weren't spending $4 a bottle...a lot of people won't spend an average of $15 a bottle or more no matter how screamin' the deal...

I'm am wining about the non-wine woot.

MonkeyWithACold wrote:Eh, I don't want to be all snobby here, but it IS wine.woot.

I work in specialty coffee, and coffee is really only good for about 10 days after it is roasted. Starbucks and places will tell you otherwise, but if you are ever looking for quality coffee, DEMAND roast dates.

Granted, if you are just looking for a cup to wake you up in the morning, it doesn't really matter (light roast has more caffeine though)...But don't buy this coffee if you are looking for a truly good coffee.

For really good coffee, order from Stumptown, Intelligensia, Ritual, Gimme, 49th Parallel...Those are some of the top roasters in the country, they ship the day it is roasted, so it is fresh.

thanks for the info

Damn that One Love is Irie....french press style. Blunt and a cup of Love never felt so good. Chillin' to the sweet melodies of Ziggy, ahhh life is good!!

I bought it for the cd...


The coffee too.

I like good coffee. It just needs to taste "not bitter," as I really like it more for caffeine.

savana005 wrote:Can I have this shipped to Alabama?

Yes you can.

cmabratte wrote:this doesn't look like a bad deal, and I'm curious about the coffee, but after paying less for 5 bags of Thanksgiving Coffee over the summer, I don't think I can pull the trigger on this one. I wouldn't even know what to do with the decaf coffee.

I assure you that this is the best deal on premium coffee out there. We basically promise the "pepsi challenge" on our coffee. Our Jammin Java is a dark, silky smooth coffee that doesn't have any acidity to it. I will put that up against any single coffee out there.

Give us a try and you won't be disappointed.

reservoird wrote:Five bags of coffee from Jamaica and not a hint of Blue Mountain? Why the frown?

We're still in the process of cultivating our beans from our coffee farm in Jamaica which is located in the heart of the Blue Mountain region. That will hit the world shortly, but in the meantime give these coffees a try.